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Harvey in FL - 9 years ago |
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Andeas has been reading my mind.  Guenter in Ontario - 9 years ago |
He describes the Zen of driving to a T. It's all about the feel and being one with the car. Porsche got this one 99% right.
Thank you Porsche for listening to the driving enthusiast who wants to be totally involved in the driving experience. I can see the beaming smile on Ferdinand's face now.
Thank you Porsche for listening to the driving enthusiast who wants to be totally involved in the driving experience. I can see the beaming smile on Ferdinand's face now.
MikenOH - 9 years ago |
Essentially, you'll be getting the peformance of a 996 GT3 in a new, mid-engine car. 991 GT3 brakes, suspension components and the 3.8l motor will make this a great car to drive on the track. Interesting they kept the 6 Spd tranny rather than just go with the 991 7 spd.
This will be a good option for those that can't afford the 991 GT3 ($150K) and might have been thinking about a used 996 or 997.1 GT3.
BTW,I like the idea of not going with CL hubs; it also sounded like the club sport option will add all the stuff (roll bar/harness) that a serious track junkie would do.
Last, there are a lot of threads on different forums about how this car compares with less expensive models from GM (Camaro 1LE,ZL-1,Z-28, C7 Z51 or Z06) or Ford (Mustang GT/GT350).
Regarding the GM models, all of the ones I've mentioned have a sticker of less than the GT4, and a lot more HP, but burdened with a lot more weight (camaro) or relying on SC's for their power (ZL-1, Z06).
I know a couple of guys that have moved to the new C7 Z51 from Porsche, for various reasons, that might have stayed with Porsche had this car been available.
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This will be a good option for those that can't afford the 991 GT3 ($150K) and might have been thinking about a used 996 or 997.1 GT3.
BTW,I like the idea of not going with CL hubs; it also sounded like the club sport option will add all the stuff (roll bar/harness) that a serious track junkie would do.
Last, there are a lot of threads on different forums about how this car compares with less expensive models from GM (Camaro 1LE,ZL-1,Z-28, C7 Z51 or Z06) or Ford (Mustang GT/GT350).
Regarding the GM models, all of the ones I've mentioned have a sticker of less than the GT4, and a lot more HP, but burdened with a lot more weight (camaro) or relying on SC's for their power (ZL-1, Z06).
I know a couple of guys that have moved to the new C7 Z51 from Porsche, for various reasons, that might have stayed with Porsche had this car been available.
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| I'll take mine when ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - 9 years ago |
... it comes in a convertible 
I've heard, for MY 2016.
Woohoo!
Happy GTFour'ing,
Pedro
Pedro Bonilla
1998 Boxster 986 - 311,000+ miles: [www.PedrosGarage.com]
PCA National Club Racing Scrutineer - PCA National HPDE Instructor - PCA Technical Committee (Boxster/Cayman)
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting" ... Steve McQueen as Michael Delaney in "LeMans"
"If you wait, all that happens is that you get older"... Mario Andretti
"Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose" ... Ayrton Senna
I've heard, for MY 2016.
Woohoo!
Happy GTFour'ing,
Pedro
Pedro Bonilla
1998 Boxster 986 - 311,000+ miles: [www.PedrosGarage.com]
PCA National Club Racing Scrutineer - PCA National HPDE Instructor - PCA Technical Committee (Boxster/Cayman)
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting" ... Steve McQueen as Michael Delaney in "LeMans"
"If you wait, all that happens is that you get older"... Mario Andretti
"Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose" ... Ayrton Senna
| Re: I'll take mine when ... Guenter in Ontario - 9 years ago |
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Pedro (Weston, FL)
... it comes in a convertible
I've heard, for MY 2016.
Woohoo!
Happy GTFour'ing,
Pedro
I agree with your about the convertible version, Pedro. Again, from what I've read, there won't be a Boxster GT4. The Boxster high performance version will have a different name and will have the current GTS's engine with the added performance coming from weight savings and chassis tuning. I guess it follows the 911 model. There's no convertible GT3 either. To me it makes sense if you're designing a car designed primarily for track use, that a coupe makes more sense.
To me, it was encouraging that Porsche listened to those enthusiasts who wanted the driving involvement of shifting their own gears. I don't have anything again the PDK, as long as Porsche builds a manual.
| Re: I'll take mine when ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - 9 years ago |
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Happy Waiting,
Pedro
Pedro Bonilla
1998 Boxster 986 - 311,000+ miles: [www.PedrosGarage.com]
PCA National Club Racing Scrutineer - PCA National HPDE Instructor - PCA Technical Committee (Boxster/Cayman)
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting" ... Steve McQueen as Michael Delaney in "LeMans"
"If you wait, all that happens is that you get older"... Mario Andretti
"Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose" ... Ayrton Senna
Happy Waiting,
Pedro
Pedro Bonilla
1998 Boxster 986 - 311,000+ miles: [www.PedrosGarage.com]
PCA National Club Racing Scrutineer - PCA National HPDE Instructor - PCA Technical Committee (Boxster/Cayman)
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting" ... Steve McQueen as Michael Delaney in "LeMans"
"If you wait, all that happens is that you get older"... Mario Andretti
"Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose" ... Ayrton Senna
| Gary in SoFL - 9 years ago |
Another GREAT Porsche Ad
"A mile of highway will take you one mile. A mile of runway will take you anywhere."
"A mile of highway will take you one mile. A mile of runway will take you anywhere."
MikenOH - 9 years ago |
Harvey in FL - 9 years ago |
Gary knows his stuff:
7:58 981.1 BS
7:55 981.1 CS
7:52 BMW M4
7:40 GT4
7:37.9 991.1 S
7:29 991.1 TT
7:26 991.1 TTS
7:25 991.1 GT3
7:22.68 C6 Z06
7:18 997 GT2RS
6:57 918
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7:58 981.1 BS
7:55 981.1 CS
7:52 BMW M4
7:40 GT4
7:37.9 991.1 S
7:29 991.1 TT
7:26 991.1 TTS
7:25 991.1 GT3
7:22.68 C6 Z06
7:18 997 GT2RS
6:57 918
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| Re: Gary...hats off to you............. Guenter in Ontario - 9 years ago |
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Harvey in FL
Gary knows his stuff:
7:58 981.1 BS
7:55 981.1 CS
7:52 BMW M4
7:40 GT4
7:37.9 991.1 S
7:29 991.1 TT
7:26 991.1 TTS
7:25 991.1 GT3
7:22.68 C6 Z06
7:18 997 GT2RS
6:57 918
One thing to keep in mind is the 7:40 time is a computer generated estimate, so the actual time could be a bit faster or slower. Andreas did state, the Ring won't be open foe testing until April or even May.
| Re: Gary...hats off to you............. Roger987 - 9 years ago |
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Guenter in Ontario
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Harvey in FL
Gary knows his stuff:
One thing to keep in mind is the 7:40 time is a computer generated estimate, so the actual time could be a bit faster or slower. Andreas did state, the Ring won't be open foe testing until April or even May.
From those numbers, it appears the fast PCars don't have many 'foes'
Harvey in FL - 9 years ago |
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Guenter in Ontario
One thing to keep in mind is the 7:40 time is a computer generated estimate, so the actual time could be a bit faster or slower. Andreas did state, the Ring won't be open foe testing until April or even May.
Yes, you are correct. I also did not show all the times at the ring, mainly Porsche's. The GT4 @ 7:40 would be tie in 53 place.
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| *NM* Gary in SoFL - 9 years ago |
 *NM* Ed fromTampa ( formerly Long Island) - 9 years ago |
Harvey in FL - 9 years ago |
it came in at less than $95K. Now all I have to do is wait for the PDK option. That's cheap for some one who wants track performance.
BTW: $0 to drop AC, $0 to drop radio.
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BTW: $0 to drop AC, $0 to drop radio.
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| When you buy it ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - 9 years ago |
... get it with A/C and radio, then bring it by and I won't charge you to keep your radio and your A/C
Happy GT Four'ing,
Pedro
Pedro Bonilla
1998 Boxster 986 - 311,000+ miles: [www.PedrosGarage.com]
PCA National Club Racing Scrutineer - PCA National HPDE Instructor - PCA Technical Committee (Boxster/Cayman)
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting" ... Steve McQueen as Michael Delaney in "LeMans"
"If you wait, all that happens is that you get older"... Mario Andretti
"Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose" ... Ayrton Senna
Happy GT Four'ing,
Pedro
Pedro Bonilla
1998 Boxster 986 - 311,000+ miles: [www.PedrosGarage.com]
PCA National Club Racing Scrutineer - PCA National HPDE Instructor - PCA Technical Committee (Boxster/Cayman)
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting" ... Steve McQueen as Michael Delaney in "LeMans"
"If you wait, all that happens is that you get older"... Mario Andretti
"Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose" ... Ayrton Senna
| Re: GT$ It's hear................. Roger987 - 9 years ago |
| Re: GT$ It's hear................. BLKBOXS - 9 years ago |
Santa...forget about the Boxster GTS ....here comes the Boxster GT4
Triple Black please!!!MIKELLIG
| Re: GT$ It's hear................. nobox - 9 years ago |
| Conspiracy theory? jlegelis - 9 years ago |
Sorry boys and girls, might I delicately suggest the 'manual-only' GT4 is just another example of Porsche's cynical marketing, intentionally detuning the GT4 via choice of gearbox? Surely a PDK GT4 is good for two seconds at the 'ring, thereby embarrassing it's 991 stable mates? An EVO piece in 2013 said PDK was good for 1.5 seconds on a small course (Bedford Autodrome). Extrapolate that difference to the 'ring and you might see 8 seconds, good to be within spitting range of a 991 Turbo (7:29).
Discuss!
Discuss!
| Re: Conspiracy theory? Roger987 - 9 years ago |
| Re: Conspiracy theory? Guenter in Ontario - 9 years ago |
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Sorry boys and girls, might I delicately suggest the 'manual-only' GT4 is just another example of Porsche's cynical marketing, intentionally detuning the GT4 via choice of gearbox?).
Discuss!
I agree about the "detuning", but only regarding the engine. Why detune the engine from 400 to 385 HP?
I disagree about the manual-only being detuning. It might reduce track times by a few tenths here or there, depending on the driver of course*. Going back to when the GT3 came out, there were a lot of people (ones interested in purchasing this class of car) disappointed/upset that it was PDK only. They were the ones who wanted that total involvement in the driving experience. It's for these people that they decided to develop the GT4 with a manual only for now. As Andreas suggested, that it's possible if the GT4 sells well, there could be a PDK option available at some time in the future.
* About those few tenths. We also have to remember that there are some drivers who only drive "flat out" as in this video. Remember that the driver makes a big difference how any car performs.
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| Re: Conspiracy theory? gedwin - 9 years ago |
| Re: Conspiracy theory? Guenter in Ontario - 9 years ago |
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I remember in the interview it was stated that the engine makes "at least" 385hp, so it looks like they generally will make more, but advertising it at 385hp. I'm guessing another marketing decision.
When you compare Porsche factory performance claims to instrument tests in automobile magazines / websites, in almost every case, the test results are better than factory claims, which to me is smart marketing. Who wouldn't be happy if their car exceeds the manufacturer's claims.
| That car is Bad A$# *NM* newt - 9 years ago |
Something mentioned here is that the gear shift throws are shorter than on other 981's. ..hmmmmm wonder if that's going to be available as a kit.
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Gary in SoFL - 9 years ago |
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Guenter in Ontario
Something mentioned here is that the gear shift throws are shorter than on other 981's. ..hmmmmm wonder if that's going to be available as a kit.
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Sure....attached to the GT4
"A mile of highway will take you one mile. A mile of runway will take you anywhere."
| Re: GT4 It's here.........another interview Roger987 - 9 years ago |
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