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Flashing CEL == car is totaled? jeff in VA - 7 years ago |
Re: Flashing CEL == car is totaled? MarcW - 7 years ago |
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jeff in VA
I have a 2002 Boxster S with ~160k miles that has been my daily driver for more than 12 years. The other day I had a flashing CEL and my engine shut down. Towed it to the dealer. They checked the "easy" things but couldn't diagnose a problem. Now they say it will take at least another $1300 to pull it apart and check the camshaft and such (8+ hours of labor, they said). They suggested that I may not want to go any further because of the age and mileage of the car. I'm not sure what my options are now. The dealer is going to have an appraiser give me a price, but it cant be much in this situation.
Any reactions to what's happening? Does a flashing CEL really mean the car is dead? Do I have any alternatives to getting value out of my car besides the dealer?
What would you guys do?
Thanks for any thoughts you might have.
Re: Flashing CEL == car is totaled? jeff in VA - 7 years ago |
Post the codes and I or someone will offer some help.. MarcW - 7 years ago |
I gather that ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - 7 years ago |
I agred with MArc and Pedro (duh) *NM* grant - 7 years ago |
Simple answer first. A flashing CEL merely means... grant - 7 years ago |
Re: Flashing CEL == car is totaled? jeff in VA - 7 years ago |
OK so both make sense grant - 7 years ago |
Re: Flashing CEL == car is totaled? MarcW - 7 years ago |
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jeff in VA
Here're the fault codes:
P0300 Misfire detection
P0343 Phase sensor 1 camshaft half-effect sensor 1
MArc's method is technically correct, but I'll add.... grant - 7 years ago |
Mouse ate the cam position sensor wiring? Boxsterra - 7 years ago |
Re: Flashing CEL == car is totaled? SMILIN - 7 years ago |
Re: Flashing CEL == car is totaled? jeff in VA - 7 years ago |
Update from dealer jeff in VA - 7 years ago |
Re: Update from dealer MarcW - 7 years ago |
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jeff in VA
So, I just talked to the dealer. He sent me a schematic of the chain gear that shows the different drive wheels, chains and valves and pointed out where the chains have timing marks. He said the technician has verified visually by observing the marks as the chains move that the timing is off, so it is definitely not a problem with the sensors. He said sometimes the oil pump, which is driven by one of the gears, can seize and cause the chain to "skip" or can break a tooth on the gear. But, he said the oil pump looks fine. He also said the chains look fine -- they move with the engine smoothly as you would expect.
He is still not sure what it might be, but he thinks the next step is to drop the engine to see if a gear is broken or lost a tooth or something. He also said the variocam, which he explained adjusted the timing with load, might also be broken.
I should add that the dealer has taken these extra steps for me at no cost. So it's hard for me to complain that they are running up the diagnostic bill.
But they are not going to drop the engine for free. So I seem to be at a decision point.
What do you guys think?
I agree with Marc *NM* Pedro (Odessa, FL) - 7 years ago |
Re: I agree with Marc jeff in VA - 7 years ago |
Re: I agree with Marc MarcW - 7 years ago |
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jeff in VA
Well, I appreciate your advice. I am pretty clueless about this stuff myself. I didn't really understand Marc's earlier post with the details of the error, for example. Anyway, I will be talking to them again tomorrow.
Re: I agree with Marc, again grant - 7 years ago |
another update jeff in VA - 7 years ago |
Well, you got more info and if you feel it enough to make a decision that's all that matters... MarcW - 7 years ago |
two things mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - 7 years ago |
Re: two things jeff in VA - 7 years ago |
Re: two things SteveJ (2010 987 base, manual trans) - 7 years ago |