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Topic 200 Gs isn't just the price, it's the amount of force, too. *NM* |
NBC: Tesla's new $200K roadster: 0-60 in 1.9 seconds db997S - 6 years ago |
Face lift anyone? *NM* carlos in Montreal - 6 years ago |
Another video of the acceleration Boxsterra - 6 years ago |
Re: Another video of the acceleration Tweety - 6 years ago |
So i guess its fast :-) *NM* grant - 6 years ago |
Now go try and test drive one. mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - 6 years ago |
Re: Now go try and test drive one. MikenOH - 6 years ago |
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mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC
Typical Tesla. Want you to wait several years for an unknown quality car. Help finance the company with your deposit.
If they can't even crank out 1000 Model 3s a month (a relatively simple car) or get their electronic nannies working on their current $100k cars, do you think the effort to produce the truck and roadster will contribute to the company's longevity or prove a fatal distraction?
Elon Musk plays the long game grant - 6 years ago |
Re: Now go try and test drive one. Boxsterra - 6 years ago |
Resource allocation Boxsterra - 6 years ago |
More detail on "why?" Boxsterra - 6 years ago |
Re: Resource allocation MarcW - 6 years ago |
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Boxsterra
Resource allocation is always tricky business. Tesla's model for order fulfillment has not been to hire more people but to develop better process automation. That's why when a supplier missed out on delivering a piece of automation hardware the factory's output tanked by 100x.
Flagships are good for a brand. I doubt the roadster will be profitable in a vacuum but it does generate buzz and excitement and that has value.
Only time will tell if their business model works but the stockholders have clearly voted that it will.
Misplaced credibility Boxsterra - 6 years ago |
Re: Misplaced credibility db997S - 6 years ago |
Re: Misplaced credibility MarcW - 6 years ago |
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Boxsterra
You're willing to assign credibility to automakers that recently required a government bailout to avoid bankruptcy?
Tesla is on the way up. Ford, GM, etc. are on the way down. Stock price is not a reflection of the current value but the perceived future value.
EPS P/E Dividend Net Cash Company Recent Price Market Value (bil) YTD Change 2017E 2018E 2017E Yield (bil) Ford $12.04 $47.8 0% $1.82 $1.57 6.6 5.0% $9.9 GM $42.11 $59.8 21% $6.32 $5.86 6.8 3.6% $3.2 Tesla $302.99 $50.9 42% -$8.67 -$3.55 NM None -$6.4 Europe car makers (BMW, Daimler, VW, and Japanese car makers (Toyota) all show very good numbers (BMW's YTD change is -2%). E = estimate; NM = not meaningful Data taken from a table on page 22 of the Nov. 13, 2017 issue of Barron's.
Re: Misplaced credibility - for the record paulofto - 6 years ago |
Re: Misplaced credibility - for the record MarcW - 6 years ago |
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paulofto
Ford did not take a bail out , voluntarily or forced. Period. The Ford family, with the only voting shares, refused to do it in fear of losing control of the company. Besides, they didn't really need it. Roger Mulally had returned them to profitability by 2007/2008 so the bail out was not needed or necessary. Double period. GM and Chrysler, on the other hand, were marketing a bunch of redundant dogs and needed serious downsizing. Ford did their downsizing on their own many years earlier.
Alan, but yes. And.. grant - 6 years ago |
Re: Misplaced credibility - for the record MarcW - 6 years ago |
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paulofto
Ford did not take a bail out , voluntarily or forced. Period. The Ford family, with the only voting shares, refused to do it in fear of losing control of the company. Besides, they didn't really need it. Roger Mulally had returned them to profitability by 2007/2008 so the bail out was not needed or necessary. Double period. GM and Chrysler, on the other hand, were marketing a bunch of redundant dogs and needed serious downsizing. Ford did their downsizing on their own many years earlier.
To be fair to GM grant - 6 years ago |
"7,375 pound-feet of torque at the wheels" Boxsterra - 6 years ago |
funny that the event was meant to unveil the semi! frogster - 6 years ago |