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I mean, you say they were ok "great" ( a strange work for "hated") but wore out soon - duh - they are winter tires. Mine, btw, are on their 7th season on my Audi S6 including many, many runs to Vermont. 5th season on the 986, but i use them very few miles each winter - maybe 100-1500 - and no deep snow. But its a simple fact - snow tires are SOFT.

D3 are - after typing most - my overall fave. They have excellent steering response and feel for snow tires. They do well in the snow. Not Hakkapallitas but i'm not in Minnesota and i don't need to get to the fire on the lake. I had the Pilot Alpin PA2s too, on an older Audi S4. They were very soft - nto great int he snow, no steering response, just soft. I would not buy them again - but understand the reason - no handling, no bite in deep snow. Ok on ice. Lots of ice in NJ. Great roundness, good QC, but not very impressive tires.

I cannot imagine what you didn't like about the Dunlops. You are familiar with winter tires, right? From your complaints i'm thinking "no" - since those are pretty much the characteristics of a winter tire. When you can minimize wear and maximize the compromised handling, you claim victory.

Grant

I find they are good snow tires - and i've had them (on other cars) in serious snow. They have excellent steering response and feel for snow tires. I have the Pilot Alpin PA2s too, on an older Audi S4. They were very soft - nto great int he snow, no steering response, just soft.

Great roundness, good QC, but not very impressive tires.

I cannot imagine what you didn't like about the Dunlops. You are familiar with winter tires, right?
I mean, you say they were ok but wore out soon - duh - they are winter tires. Mine, btw, are on their 7th season on my Audi S6 including many, many runs to Vermont. But its a simple fact - snow tires are SOFT.

D3 are - after typing most - my overall fave. They have excellent steering response and feel for snow tires. They do well in the snow. Not Hakkapallitas but i'm not in Minnesota and i don't need to get to the fire on the lake. I had the Pilot Alpin PA2s too, on an older Audi S4. They were very soft - nto great int he snow, no steering response, just soft. I would not buy them again - but understand the reason - no handling, no bite in deep snow. Ok on ice. Lots of ice in NJ. Great roundness, good QC, but not very impressive tires.

I cannot imagine what you didn't like about the Dunlops. You are familiar with winter tires, right? From your complaints i'm thinking "no" - since those are pretty much the characteristics of a winter tire. When you can minimize wear and maximize the compromised handling, you claim victory.

Grant

I find they are good snow tires - and i've had them (on other cars) in serious snow. They have excellent steering response and feel for snow tires. I have the Pilot Alpin PA2s too, on an older Audi S4. They were very soft - nto great int he snow, no steering response, just soft.

Great roundness, good QC, but not very impressive tires.

I cannot imagine what you didn't like about the Dunlops. You are familiar with winter tires, right?

Grant