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Message: The single biggest problem with rotaries is their often having two lanes. (Edited)

Changed By: Laz
Change Date: September 20, 2013 10:42AM

The single biggest problem with rotaries is their often having two lanes. (Edited)
Inevitably, vehicles in the inner lane have to move out and to the right, with the right rear blind, (or at least limited view) spot being exacerbated by the curvature. The "reference" perception of cars in that limited view field is shifting as the outside background beyond them is spinning past at a higher rate than it would be on a straight road. All the while one's brain is processing the mirror image. Another situation (just had this occur a few days ago) is when you're in the inner lane because that'so as theo stay clear of vehicles entry pointering farther along,* yet at 180º you have to move right to get off, but someone in the right lane who got in farthlater along is continuing around and cuts you off. Many circles are moving at a higher speed than the rotating traffic jam in the video, too.

* Do a Google Maps search of "Kingston Traffic Circle, Interstate 587, Kingston, NY" [i]satellite view with labels[/i], and zoom in to see the example. Try coming into it from the "Onteora Trail" from the northwest and then get on the Thruway entrance 270º around. Especially when you're surrounded by a bunch of old hippies coming out of Woodstock after a night on the town. Oops, that's me!
Changed By: Laz
Change Date: September 20, 2013 10:39AM

The single biggest problem with rotaries is their often having two lanes.
Inevitably, vehicles in the inner lane have to move out and to the right, with the right rear blind, (or at least limited view) spot being exacerbated by the curvature. The "reference" perception of cars in that limited view field is shifting as the outside background beyond them is spinning past at a higher rate than it would be on a straight road. All the while one's brain is processing the mirror image. Another situation (just had this occur a few days ago) is when you're in the inner lane because that's the entry point,* yet at 180º you have to move right to get off, but someone in the right lane who got in farther along is continuing around and cuts you off. Many circles are moving at a higher speed than the rotating traffic jam in the video, too.

*The outer lane is being used by traffic attempting to get off at a nearer exit... or cutting you off as cited above. * Do a Google Maps search of "Kingston Traffic Circle, Interstate 587, Kingston, NY" [i]satellite view with labels[/i], and zoom in to see the example. Try coming into it from the "Onteora Trail" from the northwest and then get on the Thruway entrance 270º around. Especially when you're surrounded by a bunch of old hippies coming out of Woodstock after a night on the town. Oops, that's me!
Changed By: Laz
Change Date: September 20, 2013 10:38AM

The single biggest problem with rotaries is their often having two lanes.
Inevitably, vehicles in the inner lane have to move out and to the right, with the right rear blind, (or at least limited view) spot being exacerbated by the curvature. The "reference" perception of cars in that limited view field is shifting as the outside background beyond them is spinning past at a higher rate than it would be on a straight road. All the while one's brain is processing the mirror image. Another situation (just had this occur a few days ago) is when you're in the inner lane because that's the entry point,* yet at 180º you have to move right to get off, but someone in the right lane who got in farther along is continuing around and cuts you off.
Many circles are moving at a higher speed than the rotating traffic jam in the video, too.

*The outer lane is being used by traffic attempting to get off at a nearer exit... or cutting you off as cited above. Do a Google Maps search of "Kingston Traffic Circle, Interstate 587, Kingston, NY" [i]satellite view with labels[/i], and zoom in to see the example. Try coming into it from the "Onteora Trail" from the northwest and then get on the Thruway entrance 270º around. Especially when you're surrounded by a bunch of old hippies coming out of Woodstock after a night on the town. Oops, that's me!
Changed By: Laz
Change Date: September 20, 2013 10:32AM

The single biggest problem with rotaries is their often having two lanes.
Inevitably, vehicles in the inner lane have to move out and to the right, with the right rear blind, (or at least limited view) spot being exacerbated by the curvature. The "reference" perception of cars in that limited view field is shifting as the outside background beyond them is spinning past at a higher rate than it would be on a straight road. All the while one's brain is processing the mirror image. Another situation, (just had this occur a few days ago) is when you're in the inner lane because that's the entry point,* yet at 180º you have to move right to get off, but someone in the right lane is continuing around and cuts you off.

*The outer lane is being used by traffic attempting to get off at a nearer exit... or cutting you off as cited above. Do a Google Maps search of "Kingston Traffic Circle, Interstate 587, Kingston, NY" [i]satellite view with labels[/i], and zoom in to see the example. Try coming into it from the "Onteora Trail" from the northwest and then get on the Thruway entrance 270º around. Especially when you're surrounded by a bunch of old hippies coming out of Woodstock after a night on the town. Oops, that's me!

Original Message

Author: Laz
Date: September 20, 2013 10:31AM

The single biggest problem with rotaries is their often having two lanes.
Inevitably, vehicles in the inner lane have to move out and to the right, with the right rear blind, (or at least limited view) spot being exacerbated by the curvature. The "reference" perception of cars in that limited view field is shifting as the outside background beyond them is spinning past at a higher rate than it would be on a straight road. All the while one's brain is processing the mirror image. Another situation, (just had this occur a few days ago) is when you're in the inner lane because that's the entry point,* yet at 180º you have to move right to get off, but someone in the right lane is continuing around and cuts you off.

*The outer lane is being used by traffic attempting to get off at a nearer exit... or cutting you off as cited above. Do a Google Maps search of "Kingston Traffic Circle, Interstate 587, Kingston, NY" [i]satellite view with labels[/i], and zoom in to see the example. Try coming into it from the "Onteora Trail" from the northwest and then get on the Thruway entrance 270º around. Especially when you're surrounded by a bunch of old hippies coming out of Woodstock after a night on the town. Oops, that's me!