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Per Bob's request...... this is not easy to do..... so I will start with a few bullet points now after owning my C2S for just over 1 year:

1 - 911 rear bias.... complete bunk in my book. I will re-write this after I do some DEs this spring, but for the most part, I can't barely feel it and I have been driving in all of this snow (albeit with Michelin snows). This conveyance by posters of a barbell hanging out back there is just not my experience. I can only feel it in rare times such those odd hops on streets that bob and rock the car up and down but can never feel it laterally. 5th gear has a vid on a newer 911 and they note there is no bias. More on handling below, but I thought this spin out BS should be addressed up front.
2 - Noise - the 911 is quieter and while I like this for longer drives, it takes away some of the excitement
3 - Cockpit - the enclosed feeling of the Boxster is just better and adds to the fun.
4 - 911 backseats - really? There are seats back there? No kidding they are silly and unusable and should not be a decisioning factor.
5 - Handling - I have no clue if the engine placement has anything to do with enjoyment or control so I say it is irrelevant. Again I haven't DE'd this 911 yet, but for even spirited driving, it is a non issue. Sure, I use my imagination and look for rear bias and I can find it, but really.... it is not much of a factor. However.... the cars handle differently and, yes, some of this could be due to the engine placement, but I tell you, I can not point to it. The 911 just feels heavier, more planted, more accurate, and less nimble. The darn thing (911) is like it is on no-drama rails... so this is bad? Well it is definitely less fun. To get the 911 into the fun zone, I gotta be going 70 miles an hour! Death is closer in a 911 if you want to be in the fun zone.
6 - Power - Oh yea, the 911 has tons of it @385. Wow, 385 horses. Yes it goes. But again, there is no drama with it and it changes how you use the gearbox. Ex: at 60 MPH, I can accelerate at needed, highway rates in 6th gear! Sure you can scare the begeezus out of your passenger by dripping into 3rd and feeling your tongue drop into your throat but for most highway driving in the real commuting world, you don't need to. So..... the 911 is a blast to drive aggressively regarding its acceleration capabilities, but I found myself shifting less because you don't need to...... and therefore less fun (some may like this as it is less work but also less fun). I actually am consiously getting into the habit of downshifting more needed or not, just to get my funner habits back.
7 - Luxury and convenience - I like the 911 for its creature comforts.... I live in this car and have put 25 K miles on it in 12 months.... yea, I like the nice stereo, XM, MP3 via USB stick, mega-way seats, beeping butt, etc. etc.
8 - Ego - This is gotta be the toughest one to analyze because you have to look yourself in the mirror. I always wanted a 911. It was always and still is the "best" in writing and lore. I was at a track event with my Boxster and there was a palpable sense of superiority in car length. Someone said something like "Porsche did a nice job with their entry car".

So, here is my summary: The Boxster was more fun and a "better" handling car. "Better" means more feedback, more thrashing about, and just more exciting. The 911 is heavier, more controllable, no drama, way more powerful, way more comfortable (see Boxster handling), much more prestigous.
8 - Ego - This is gotta be the toughest one to analyze because you have to look yourself in the mirror. I always wanted a 911. It was always and still is the "best" in writing and lore. I was at a track event with my Boxster and there was a palpable sense of superiority in car length. Someone said something like "Porsche did a nice job with their entry car". So to be totally honest, I am proud to own a 911.

So, here is my summary: The Boxster was more fun and a "better" handling car. "Better" means more feedback, more thrashing about, and just more exciting. The 911 is heavier, more controllable, no drama, way more powerful, way more comfortable (see Boxster handling), much more prestigious.

In a perfect world, I would like to erase everyones memory of what a 911 is, and put a Jake Raby engine in a Boxster.

A quick comment on Porsche product planning...... as I got older (I am 54 now) and could afford the more expensive car, Porsche also figured out their elder market likes drama less and comfort more. Porsche market planners win!

Peace
Bruce in Philly

Per Bob's request...... this is not easy to do..... so I will start with a few bullet points now after owning my C2S for just over 1 year:

1 - 911 rear bias.... complete bunk in my book. I will re-write this after I do some DEs this spring, but for the most part, I can't barely feel it and I have been driving in all of this snow (albeit with Michelin snows). This conveyance by posters of a barbell hanging out back there is just not my experience. I can only feel it in rare times such those odd hops on streets that bob and rock the car up and down but can never feel it laterally. 5th gear has a vid on a newer 911 and they note there is no bias. More on handling below, but I thought this spin out BS should be addressed up front.
2 - Noise - the 911 is quieter and while I like this for longer drives, it takes away some of the excitement
3 - Cockpit - the enclosed feeling of the Boxster is just better and adds to the fun.
4 - 911 backseats - really? There are seats back there? No kidding they are silly and unusable and should not be a decisioning factor.
5 - Handling - I have no clue if the engine placement has anything to do with enjoyment or control so I say it is irrelevant. Again I haven't DE'd this 911 yet, but for even spirited driving, it is a non issue. Sure, I use my imagination and look for rear bias and I can find it, but really.... it is not much of a factor. However.... the cars handle differently and, yes, some of this could be due to the engine placement, but I tell you, I can not point to it. The 911 just feels heavier, more planted, more accurate, and less nimble. The darn thing (911) is like it is on no-drama rails... so this is bad? Well it is definitely less fun. To get the 911 into the fun zone, I gotta be going 70 miles an hour! Death is closer in a 911 if you want to be in the fun zone.
6 - Power - Oh yea, the 911 has tons of it @385. Wow, 385 horses. Yes it goes. But again, there is no drama with it and it changes how you use the gearbox. Ex: at 60 MPH, I can accelerate at needed, highway rates in 6th gear! Sure you can scare the begeezus out of your passenger by dripping into 3rd and feeling your tongue drop into your throat but for most highway driving in the real commuting world, you don't need to. So..... the 911 is a blast to drive aggressively regarding its acceleration capabilities, but I found myself shifting less because you don't need to...... and therefore less fun (some may like this as it is less work but also less fun).
I actually am consiously getting into the habit of downshifting more needed or not, just to get my funner habits back.
7 - Luxury and convenience - I like the 911 for its creature comforts.... I live in this car and have put 25 K miles on it in 12 months.... yea, I like the nice stereo, XM, MP3 via USB stick, mega-way seats, beeping butt, etc. etc.
8 - Ego - This is gotta be the toughest one to analyze because you have to look yourself in the mirror. I always wanted a 911. It was always and still is the "best" in writing and lore. I was at a track event with my Boxster and there was a palpable sense of superiority in car length. Someone said something like "Porsche did a nice job with their entry car".

So, here is my summary: The Boxster was more fun and a "better" handling car. "Better" means more feedback, more thrashing about, and just more exciting. The 911 is heavier, more controllable, no drama, way more powerful, way more comfortable (see Boxster handling), much more prestigous.

In a perfect world, I would like to erase everyones memory of what a 911 is, and put a Jake Raby engine in a Boxster.

A quick comment on Porsche product planning...... as I got older (I am 54 now) and could afford the more expensive car, Porsche also figured out their elder market likes drama less and comfort more. Porsche market planners win!

Peace
Bruce in Philly

Per Bob's request...... this is not easy to do..... so I will start with a few bullet points now after owning my C2S for just over 1 year:

1 - 911 rear bias.... complete bunk in my book. I will re-write this after I do some DEs this spring, but for the most part, I can't barely feel it and I have been driving in all of this snow (albeit with Michelin snows). This conveyance by posters of a barbell hanging out back there is just not my experience. I can only feel it in rare times such those odd hops on streets that bob and rock the car up and down but can never feel it laterally. 5th gear has a vid on a newer 911 and they note there is no bias. More on handling below, but I thought this spin out BS should be addressed up front.
2 - Noise - the 911 is quieter and while I like this for longer drives, it takes away some of the excitement
3 - Cockpit - the enclosed feeling of the Boxster is just better and adds to the fun.
4 - 911 backseats - really? There are seats back there? No kidding they are silly and unusable and should not be a decisioning factor.
5 - Handling - I have no clue if the engine placement has anything to do with enjoyment or control so I say it is irrelevant. Again I haven't DE'd this 911 yet, but for even spirited driving, it is a non issue. Sure, I use my imagination and look for rear bias and I can find it, but really.... it is not much of a factor. However.... the cars handle differently and, yes, some of this could be due to the engine placement, but I tell you, I can not point to it. The 911 just feels heavier, more planted, more accurate, and less nimble. The darn thing (911) is like it is on no-drama rails... so this is bad? Well it is definitely less fun. To get the 911 into the fun zone, I gotta be going 70 miles an hour! Death is closer in a 911 if you want to be in the fun zone.
6 - Power - Oh yea, the 911 has tons of it @385. Wow, 385 horses. Yes it goes. But again, there is no drama with it and it changes how you use the gearbox. Ex: at 60 MPH, I can accelerate at needed, highway rates in 6th gear! Sure you can scare the begeezus out of your passenger by dripping into 3rd and feeling your tongue drop into your throat but for most highway driving in the real commuting world, you don't need to. So..... the 911 is a blast to drive aggressively regarding its acceleration capabilities, but I found myself shifting less because you don't need to...... and therefore less fun (some may like this as it is less work but also less fun).
7 - Luxury and convenience - I like the 911 for its creature comforts.... I live in this car and have put 25 K miles on it in 12 months.... yea, I like the nice stereo, XM, MP3 via USB stick, mega-way seats, beeping butt, etc. etc.
8 - Ego - This is gotta be the toughest one to analyze because you have to look yourself in the mirror. I always wanted a 911. It was always and still is the "best" in writing and lore. I was at a track event with my Boxster and there was a palpable sense of superiority in car length. Someone said something like "Porsche did a nice job with their entry car".

So, here is my summary: The Boxster was more fun and a "better" handling car. "Better" means more feedback, more thrashing about, and just more exciting. The 911 is heavier, more controllable, no drama, way more powerful, way more comfortable (see Boxster handling), much more prestigous.

In a perfect world, I would like to erase everyones memory of what a 911 is, and put a Jake Raby engine in a Boxster.

A quick comment on Porsche product planning...... as I got older (I am 54 now) and could afford the more expensive car, Porsche also figured out their elder market likes drama less and comfort more. Porsche market planners win!

Peace
Bruce in Philly

Per Bob's request...... this is not easy to do..... so I will start with a few bullet points now after owning my C2S for just over 1 year:

1 - 911 rear bias.... complete bunk in my book. I will re-write this after I do some DEs this spring, but for the most part, I can't barely feel it and I have been driving in all of this snow (albeit with Michelin snows). This conveyance by posters of a barbell hanging out back there is just not my experience. I can only feel it in rare times such those odd hops on streets that bob and rock the car up and down but can never feel it laterally. 5th gear has a vid on a newer 911 and they note there is no bias. More on handling below, but I thought this spin out BS should be addressed up front.
2 - Noise - the 911 is quieter and while I like this for longer drives, it takes away some of the excitement
3 - Cockpit - the enclosed feeling of the Boxster is just better and adds to the fun.
4 - 911 backseats - really? There are seats back there? No kidding they are silly and unusable and should be a decisioning factor.
5 - Handling - I have no clue if the engine placement has anything to do with enjoyment or control so I say it is irrelevant. Again I haven't DE'd this 911 yet, but for even spirited driving, it is a non issue. Sure, I use my imagination and look for rear bias and I can find it, but really.... it is not much of a factor. However.... the cars handle differently and, yes, some of this could be due to the engine placement, but I tell you, I can not point to it. The 911 just feels heavier, more planted, more accurate, and less nimble. The darn thing (911) is like it is on no-drama rails... so this is bad? Well it is definitely less fun. To get the 911 into the fun zone, I gotta be going 70 miles an hour! Death is closer in a 911 if you want to be in the fun zone.
6 - Power - Oh yea, the 911 has tons of it @385. Wow, 385 horses. Yes it goes. But again, there is no drama with it and it changes how you use the gearbox. Ex: at 60 MPH, I can accelerate at needed, highway rates in 6th gear! Sure you can scare the begeezus out of your passenger by dripping into 3rd and feeling your tongue drop into your throat but for most highway driving in the real commuting world, you don't need to. So..... the 911 is a blast to drive aggressively regarding its acceleration capabilities, but I found myself shifting less because you don't need to...... and therefore less fun (some may like this as it is less work but also less fun).
7 - Luxury and convenience - I like the 911 for its creature comforts.... I live in this car and have put 25 K miles on it in 12 months.... yea, I like the nice stereo, XM, MP3 via USB stick, mega-way seats, beeping butt, etc. etc.
8 - Ego - This is gotta be the toughest one to analyze because you have to look yourself in the mirror. I always wanted a 911. It was always and still is the "best" in writing and lore. I was at a track event with my Boxster and there was a palpable sense of superiority in car length. Someone said something like "Porsche did a nice job with their entry car".

So, here is my summary: The Boxster was more fun and a "better" handling car. "Better" means more feedback, more thrashing about, and just more exciting. The 911 is heavier, more controllable, no drama, way more powerful, way more comfortable (see Boxster handling), much more prestigous.

In a perfect world, I would like to erase everyones memory of what a 911 is, and put a Jake Raby engine in a Boxster.

A quick comment on Porsche product planning...... as I got older (I am 54 now) and could afford the more expensive car, Porsche also figured out their elder market likes drama less and comfort more. Porsche market planners win!

Peace
Bruce in Philly