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Message: Re: Boxster spinout

Changed By: Paul S.
Change Date: February 06, 2011 12:30PM

Re: Boxster spinout
I didn't see the clip, but FWIW, that was roughly 5" of snow on top of packed ice, here in Dallas and temperatures still in the 20's. Any Boxster here is likely on summer tires and those are not good in the cold.

Fact is, the traction starts going down as the temperature gets under 50 and degrades as it gets colder. A lot of drivers have really bad car control feel, and don't notice the difference until really cold. And the Summer tires are really bad on snow covered ice.

I was able to get around Friday, going roughly 30 mph in my Jetta Sportswagen. And I had someone in a sedan do a 180 out in front of me--I was looking well ahead, saw her start sliding, I stopped and waited for the spinning car to come to a rest. But a dummy behind me, flipped me off and drove around me, then realized why I stopped where I did. He ended up getting out of the way, but he clearly wasn't looking at his surroundings. I ended up driving around them both, going my way, only once I was sure they were done going all over the road.

It's absolutely true drivers down here don't know how to drive on bad roads--and that's the rub. As long as everyone stays in control, you can drive slowly. But if a car near you starts losing it, you need lots of space to get out of the way, because you are not going to stop or turn very quickly. The foolish drivers around here don't give other cars the space, to be able to steer around or stop to avoid accidents. I had several drivers right on my rear end or next to me, and thankfully they didn't slide into me. The accidents aren't usually too bad because they are generally at slow speeds, but I really hate risking my car sharing the roads with idiot drivers.

If you have power at all 4 corners, like my "driver" Sadie, it was a fun snow day.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNMy_bcqUhs]Snow Day in Dallas[/url]

Original Message

Author: Paul S.
Date: February 06, 2011 12:15PM

Re: Boxster spinout
I didn't see the clip, but FWIW, that was roughly 5" of snow on top of packed ice, here in Dallas and temperatures still in the 20's. Any Boxster here is likely on summer tires and those are not good in the cold.

Fact is, the traction starts going down as the temperature gets under 50 and degrades as it gets colder. A lot of drivers have really bad car control feel, and don't notice the difference until really cold. And the Summer tires are really bad on snow covered ice.

I was able to get around Friday, going roughly 30 mph in my Jetta Sportswagen. And I had someone in a sedan do a 180 out in front of me--I was looking well ahead, saw her start sliding, I stopped and waited for the spinning car to come to a rest. But a dummy behind me, flipped me off and drove around me, then realized why I stopped where I did. He ended up getting out of the way, but he clearly wasn't looking at his surroundings. I ended up driving around them both, going my way, only once I was sure they were done going all over the road.

It's absolutely true drivers down here don't know how to drive on bad roads--and that's the rub. As long as everyone stays in control, you can drive slowly. But if a car near you starts losing it, you need lots of space to get out of the way, because you are not going to stop or turn very quickly. The foolish drivers around here don't give other cars the space, to be able to steer around or stop to avoid accidents. I had several drivers right on my rear end or next to me, and thankfully they didn't slide into me. The accidents aren't usually too bad because they are generally at slow speeds, but I really hate risking my car sharing the roads with idiot drivers.