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Message: Re: Hydrogen for propelling autos

Changed By: Pedro (Odessa, FL)
Change Date: April 18, 2023 09:54AM

Re: Hydrogen for propelling autos
I have always been all-in when it comes to hydrogen for transportation, but it has limitations just like most other forms of "fuel" whether liquid, gas or electric.
Right now, there are roughly 50 hydrogen dispensing "gas" stations in Southern CA which are self contained.
A 40' container is placed at a standard gas station and it contains the on-site hydrogen extraction and dispensing equipment necessary.
The problem with hydrogen is the same as electric cars: Range on a "tankful".
Compressed hydrogen gas, even at 10,000 psi still requires a lot of 'tank" space and holding it as a liquid requires extreme cold temps in the tanks which is unfeasible.
Right now, short-term (for the next 10-20 years) I believe that Porsche's e-Fuel will be the answer to keeping our older ICE cars on the roads.
The e-fuel which is powering the Porsche Motorsport Programs this year will slowly be expanded to be used as an alternative fuel at gas stations just like Flex-Fuel is today.
It won't be cheap (Porsche estimates around $7/gallon) but it'll be clean!
Any water-cooled Porsche running on e-Fuel produces as the same NET CARBON FOOTPRINT as an electric car today.

Here's an article I wrote on Porsche's plans for the future: http://www.pedrosgarage.com/site-5/80-by-2030.html

Happy eFueling,
Pedro

Original Message

Author: Pedro (Odessa, FL)
Date: April 18, 2023 09:50AM

Re: Hydrogen for propelling autos
I have always been all-in when it comes to hydrogen for transportation, but it has limitations just like most other forms of "fuel" whether liquid, gas or electric.
Right now, there are roughly 50 hydrogen dispensing "gas" stations in Southern CA which are self contained.
A 40' container is placed at a standard gas station and it contains the on-site hydrogen extraction and dispensing equipment necessary.
The problem with hydrogen is the same as electric cars: Range on a "tankful".
Compressed hydrogen gas, even at 10,000 psi still requires a lot of 'tank" space and holding it as a liquid requires extreme cold temps in the tanks which is unfeasible.
Right now, short-term (for the next 10-20 years) I believe that Porsche's e-Fuel will be the answer to keeping our older ICE cars on the roads.
The e-fuel which is powering the Porsche Motorsport Programs this year will slowly be expanded to be used as an alternative fuel at gas stations just like Flex-Fuel is today.
It won't be cheap (Porsche estimates around $7/gallon) but it'll be clean!
Any water-cooled Porsche running on e-Fuel produces as the same NET CARBON FOOTPRINT as an electric car today.

Happy eFueling,
Pedro