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Steve - there is a marked difference between "Asking" price and selling prices, never let one confuse you with the other. The other factor is that many or most of those would be "dealer" prices which are very much artificially inflated hoping a sucker pays it. If you want actual selling prices go to eBay and look at completed or "sold" prices and that will give you a realistic value. What someby Leeper - Main Forum
Last March bought my MY2000 base model Boxster with 81K miles, all receipts since new, incredible condition (recent IMS/RMS, serpentine belt, starter, alternator, rear suspension arms, brakes, rear tires, lots of stuff done) for $7900 needing only a clutch, This was a California car in a very nice color... I think your asking price is definitely high. BTW - my car was listed on this site only.by Leeper - Main Forum
P of SD took apart the car today and had the parts waiting for me to view them. When I arrived it was all laid out. It was clear that there wasn't anything left of the clutch - it was down to the rivets with no material left at all... all the material was spit throughout the clutch bell housing. No evidence whatsoever as to what might have caused this incident, bad part, bad labor, bad treatmeby Leeper - Main Forum
BTW - the term is called "culpable". "To hold blame, at fault"by Leeper - Main Forum
There's no way to tell that I'm aware of. If it is there then I can and will point fingers and point my gun-barrel in that direction to hold accountable. In the likely even that there's nothing conclusive during the opening of this thing then I'll go stick with my finger pointed at P of SD. (I get conflicting reports on whether the Sachs clutch is or is NOT the identical one as the Porsche clby Leeper - Main Forum
Thursday got a long email from the service manager @ Porsche ending with his promise to resolve this and win me over. Friday the service adviser called to get the car in there ASAP to tear it down to see the damage but being out of town I facilitated that via phone. Right now it should be at San Diego Porsche awaiting a good mechanic to take it apart to see what we're facing before they can diaby Leeper - Main Forum
No sign of rubber in the rear wheel wells or significant scuffing on the tires, the indi shop who has the car just reported back. Awaiting the call from Porsche to quote me a target price, go ahead, pick up my car, and do the tear-down/install.by Leeper - Main Forum
Point taken. When the Service manager calls this morning I'll offer that to him. I'll also ask that when they break it down that I be allowed to take video just in case it shows any proof of that, if so I'll take him off the hook and that should be of some comfort to him. Not sure that we'll be able to tell anything by seeing the carnage though. At the very least the indi is responsible for theby Leeper - Main Forum
Correct, it was in for an immobilizer issue which turned out to be a pinched wire in a harness behind the stereo (my fault admittedly). The dealership was pretty good with me in diagnosing it then worked with me on pricing to be competitive with discount dealers so that was a good experience... all was good until a few short miles away. Perhaps their putting 2 miles on my car was a "test drive"by Leeper - Main Forum
I ordered the Sachs clutch from Partsgeek online and had a very reputable (even service adviser/not service manager admitted their quality of work). This was only 2K miles ago. There were no symptoms whatsoever. The dealership had also agreed to do a "complimentary world class inspection" which covered everything head-to toe" yet failed to do this... might this have turned up an issue had it bby Leeper - Main Forum
thanks for all the input here guys, it is not only helpful information but helps with the venting. I've been up against Porsche in the past. Being nice but not backing down seems to go far, as is the case here. Twice now they've tried to talk their way around issues, insinuate that I used cheap parts, had lackluster labor done, etc and then spoke in circles trying to get me to walk away... toldby Leeper - Main Forum
Got PCNA rep, she was nice. Told me not to have the indi shop as a Porsche dealership has to do the tear down if I hope to see any "good will" repair. Said I also have to call to speak with the service mgr @ SD Porsche - when I called he is gone for a few days, as was his boss the GM... they connected me to the VP of sales (knew that would be worthless). Service mgr just called repeating thatby Leeper - Main Forum
Porsche called me late this evening. AFter a LONG drawn-out conversation their position is that there is nothing that directly points to them having any liability in this amtter at all. Yes the computer clearly shows that it was redlined 12 minutes before detonation but that is nto conclusive enough for them to take any responsibility in this. Tomorrow morning I'll call Partsgeek (where I bougby Leeper - Main Forum
I hope you're right Marc. I was a bit tough on the advisor while we worked on the wire problem. When I picked the car up from Porsche SD I sat with him and commended him for his efforts and such. Moments later I called him from the side of the road letting him know the car was busted... he said they would be happy to look at it and find out what is wrong, told him that it would make more senseby Leeper - Main Forum
Got the call from the indi dealer. They ran the computer and it showed this car has been redlined a LOT since new, told him that that had little to do with the fact that they had installed a clutch only 2,000 miles ago, that it had not been abused since I've owned it, and please let me know how that is relevant. He said that it is clear that the clutch has detonated due to abuse, and that the cby Leeper - Main Forum
Not sure that would explain the intense stench of clutch odor. This was so intense that it stunk in my other car a few minutes later while I followed my Boxster on a tow truck. That would be wonderful to hear something that simple but this is definitely something internal and some fried... with no leak of any sort either atop the engine or below. It goes into gear, or at least through the shifby Leeper - Main Forum
My guess is the new clutch (2k miles) is gone, as is the flywheel and other stuff within the bell. This could easily run in the neighborhood of >$3500, hopefully I'm not on the hook for it. When I had them do the work they replaced the arm and all bolts in there along with the new Sachs clutch I brought to them. We shall see. Thankfully I do have prett good faith in their work and their woby Leeper - Main Forum
Naturally if it is the parts (Sachs clutch purchased online new+ all the small bits they supplied) then Ill go after whomever dealt me the bad parts to recoup the labor. If it is bad labor then that's simple too. Guess I'll have to wait until Monday or Tuesday to get the "post-mortum" report when they tear it down to see what we come up with. My lady said after about 2 miles, from the Porscheby Leeper - Main Forum
So we picked up my car from San Diego Porsche yesterday @ 10am after the CLU debacle. My lady chose to drive the Boxster instead of the Honda. As we entered the freeway some 2 miles from the dealership I see her almost veer off the cloverleaf onramp. I get off the freeway only a few exits away and notice she's nowhere to be seen. I get a call saying "I'm just off the freeway and the car won'tby Leeper - Main Forum
Picking it up now. Total cost is $510 which includdes diagnosis, repair to the wire which I damaged putting the radio back in the last time (this grounded out against the radio's aluminum housing causing a ground issue with the CLU). In the end they did a great job and did not need the new CLU they ordered. I mentally figured this would run me $500 so it is right in line... plus now I get anothby Leeper - Main Forum
Picking it up tonight. The new CLU arrived but it still popped fuses, they had to trace it back to find out why. The guy found that the last time I removed my stereo I must have pinched a wire on a loom when I pushed it back in, and that somehow would occasionally rub against the metal tray that houses the radio thus grounding out. They're not going to charge me for the CLU, not sure waht theby Leeper - Main Forum
Just got back from Porsche with hopes of removing and re-entering the ley codes, the issue with my unit is that it shows no keys. They tried to input both my keys as well as one from parts and it wouldn't accept anything. He said it is also has blown several fuses. The new unit will arrive in the next day so hopefully ths will resolve it once and for all. Boxsterra your input and insight isby Leeper - Main Forum
Like Ronalrd REagan once said "trust, but verify". Tomorrow morning I'll so up and ask them to erase all the current codes then re-enter at least one key to see if that has any affect. Perhaps you're right adn it's just a glitch or "bug". I'm afraid that if I just call and ask that it may or may not actually get done. I agreed to purchase the CLU and another ley however I am hoping this willby Leeper - Main Forum
Looks like very few places have these anymore. Anyone out there have a set of them, in aluminum not plastic, that are willing to sell? Been checking eBay for a while with no luck. Any suggestions? Thanks, Steveby Leeper - Main Forum
Thanks so much Boxsterra for your input. I'll ping them on Monday to see what they can do. In reality who knows if they've tried this already and who knows if upon my request they are willing to give it a try as they have ordered the part. It's not looking like this advisor is very thrilled in delaing with me as I'm their nemesis - someone who knows mechanics (and most electrical too) and is alby Leeper - Main Forum
Confused here, being that they said they tried to input one of their known working keys in the CLU should that not troubleshoot the cLU not remembering or "seeing" a key? The advisor said the tech tried both of my keys as well as a couple that they had there with no avail. IS there something I'm missing that might negate my having to purchase this CLU?by Leeper - Main Forum
They said that they tried my regular key (only have one), the valet key, and a couple that they had laying around but the CLU wouldn't recognize any signals from any of them. He said that they were able to see the key codes on the CLU but that it would not recognize any one them. I was hoping it could be as s imple as a "reflash" of the CLU, secondly was hoping may the RFID "pill" in the key miby Leeper - Main Forum
Porsche SD called me yesterday confirming it is the CLU (central locking unit). I asked for the quote to resolve this and got "$160 additional labor, $483 parts (CLU only) plus tax". Told him I'd pass as I could get the CLU for $283, a new key, and have it all programmed at another Porsche dealer for $120 and STILL save money. He spoke with parts then offered to do everything for $750, I passeby Leeper - Main Forum
the unit under the drivers seat part # 996.618.260.07 "Alarm control unit", you are correct Pedro, thanks for clearing it up. Right now I'm looking at: $140 already spent to diagnose (and not get a clear answer) $287 for "Control unit" PN # 996.618.260.07 from Sunset Porsche $10 for new key blank (eBay) $117 new key head w/ electronis from Sunset Porsche $40 for local locksmith to laser cut newby Leeper - Main Forum
Update - Porsche called two days ago (a day after bringing it in to ask rather silly questions. He then asked me to give him another day to troubleshoot. They called yesterday with a conveluted story as to why they don't have answers yet. He said they have over 2 1/2 hours into it thus far so he asked that my $140 diagnositc quote be allowed to go to another $160 being it is taking them so longby Leeper - Main Forum