Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? Guenter in Ontario - 8 years ago |
if it were my money… frogster - 8 years ago |
I think i agree, grant - 8 years ago |
good points. I really didnt notice the heated seats ( whcih i use all the time) and frankly forgot grant - 8 years ago |
The price for the 2002 S is too high db997S - 8 years ago |
Pedro (Weston, FL) - 8 years ago |
Re: Where are you located?... SeaNile - 8 years ago |
I'd go back and read mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - 8 years ago |
Re: you have been looking for a car for months....go to a dealer and sign your name on a new one use the SeaNile - 8 years ago |
Don't get the SLK Red_Lightnin! - 8 years ago |
Ironically Gary, I feel exactly the opposite Red_Lightnin! - 8 years ago |
For what it's worth, I've had an '02 S since new..... JiminAZ - 8 years ago |
Re: Oh no, now add an 03 S to the mix! SeaNile - 8 years ago |
Way overpriced *NM* Red_Lightnin! - 8 years ago |
Re: Way overpriced Paul S. - 8 years ago |
MikenOH - 8 years ago |
Re: What kind of exhaust is on this 02 S?? SeaNile - 8 years ago |
JFP in PA - 8 years ago |
Run away, run away! Red_Lightnin! - 8 years ago |
Re: Run away, run away! SeaNile - 8 years ago |
whall - 8 years ago |
Re: Gotta love car salesmen SeaNile - 8 years ago |
You know you might end up buying this car. I think you like it and that counts for a lot... MarcW - 8 years ago |
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Dealer with the 02 S called me today and let me know that they have made contact with the previous owner who will be dropping off all of the service records soon. Once the dealer gets the records, whatever records there may be, they will call me and I can get a look at things. Of course the salesman has to get his dig in "good thing we reached out to the owner for the records because we now have several interested parties in the car and they also asked for the records." Personally, I don't care if it's just me or 100 other people checking out the car. That makes no difference and will not influence my decision. Sometimes they just say the dumbest things.....
Re: You know you might end up buying this car. I think you like it and that counts for a lot... SeaNile - 8 years ago |
Wouldn't be a bad idea to test the Z if you think you're interested. The time to consider your... MarcW - 8 years ago |
Re: I tried to test drive one once.... SeaNile - 8 years ago |
Re: The best part about the 2 time IMS loser's 350Z was the license plate... It read SeaNile - 8 years ago |
California Black Plates! *NM* Tom F. - 8 years ago |
No service records.... no deal..... *NM* newt - 8 years ago |
Re: No service records.... no deal..... SeaNile - 8 years ago |
Re: No service records ....maybe a deal SeaNile - 8 years ago |
First price is not fact only an opinion. So do *not* take the price you're quoted too seriously... MarcW - 8 years ago |
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I just have a feeling no service records will be found, which i am OK with if the price is right. The issue becomes the $18,000 which they say is their bottom line price. I might be OK with 18K if the car is perfect with a detailed history. $18K for a gamble of a 2002 car with no records is insane to me.
I'm in wintery Philadelphia and am in no rush as the car wouldn't really be driven till the harsh winter weather passes. Sure I would like a nice example of a 986 S for mid teens but maybe waiting this out and shopping around will discover other options. The 05 987 S with 20K miles, one owner with records for $28,450 seems reasonable but I'm not ready to pull the trigger on that car yet. Although it will probably be gone when I am ready to buy I can only hope the new year and a few more months will have the prices come down even more. Sure the weather will be nicer but the cars will be a year older, etc.
John
Private party or dealer SeaNile - 8 years ago |
If the dealer didn't mention any service specific items then my guess is the car didn't get... MarcW - 8 years ago |
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I called the Porsche dealer who has serviced the car, last service was at 30K miles but did not specifically say it received the 30K service. Only mention of being brought in to check CV boot in 07. No other detailed service is mentioned.
The private party 02/03S cars are actually more expensive than what the dealers are asking. The two cars I am talking about have a very detailed service history with the owner having the records. The 02 S with 41K miles is $20,500 and the 03 S is $21,900.
Maybe I just hold off a few months, get a 987 CPO S and spend a bit more. I think an 02/03 S for 16500-17000 is a decent deal but if more than that I feel more comfortable spending 30K for a 987 CPO.
I'm suggesting private party mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - 8 years ago |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - 8 years ago |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - 8 years ago |
Re: Good news, bad news on the 986.... SeaNile - 8 years ago |
Burg Boxster - 8 years ago |
Repairs depend upon the quality of the shop and how much the dealer wants to pay... MarcW - 8 years ago |
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Received a call from the dealer with the 02 S this am, the good news is they now have the complete service records of the car and it seems to be very well cared for. I still need to actually see the records and go over them,.. Now the bad news....while clearing out the lot the snowplow hit the car and the hood is pretty banged up. Sounds like the truck backed up and hit the car with the salt spreader hanging off the back of the truck. And here I thought I was about to get a break with a well cared for 986. Wonder who will do the repair, will the paint match, will this show up on CarFax and ultimately will this affect the sale price and then the resale price as well??
Re: Repairs depend upon the quality of the shop and how much the dealer wants to pay... SeaNile - 8 years ago |
Re: "The dealer might be tempted to skimp to avoid eating into its profits". Marc, an eternal optimist. SeaNile - 8 years ago |
Burg Boxster - 8 years ago |
Such skepticism from the man who always uses dealer service... mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - 8 years ago |
Re: Deposit is on the car....and not from me! SeaNile - 8 years ago |
My skepticism is valid... MarcW - 8 years ago |
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Dealer may collect from the plowing contractor. So dealer may not be taking the total hit.
And maybe you could insist as part of the deal on a new hood and a complete front end respray in a way that doesn't show on the CarFax.
By the way, if I had a complete picture record before repairs and write-up of the damage and parts used to fix, I wouldn't be that put off buying a multi-owner car at the right price if the owner had it fixed right and it looked brand new. These aren't collector few-made cars.
Dealer's financial reporting for the year may end Friday so you may never have leverage like you have now.
Re: So here is the 987. Thoughts? SeaNile - 8 years ago |
JFP in PA - 8 years ago |
Pics not as good as I would like. One thing I noticed is the exhaust outlets... One appears... MarcW - 8 years ago |
Re: Called the Porsche dealer about this 05 S and... SeaNile - 8 years ago |
You are on the weak side if you start negotiating down from the dealer's asking price... MarcW - 8 years ago |
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Seems that the car was well cared for and had all service at the local (where initially bought) Porsche dealer. All things done according to schedule, oil changes, services, brake flush, etc.
So if I go back to the beginning from when I have been watching, the car was listed for $28,950 and they could come down to $28450 but that was absolutely the lowest price. Looked online today and it is listed for $27,900. Why is dealing with car dealerships and car salesmen so painful?? Ironically this is the lowest priced 05 S with the lowest mileage on the web. Next closest cars either have 50K miles or are $34K.
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SeaNile
Seems that the car was well cared for and had all service at the local (where initially bought) Porsche dealer. All things done according to schedule, oil changes, services, brake flush, etc.
So if I go back to the beginning from when I have been watching, the car was listed for $28,950 and they could come down to $28450 but that was absolutely the lowest price. Looked online today and it is listed for $27,900. Why is dealing with car dealerships and car salesmen so painful?? Ironically this is the lowest priced 05 S with the lowest mileage on the web. Next closest cars either have 50K miles or are $34K.
Re: Negotiating from a distance... SeaNile - 8 years ago |
The deal is entirely up to you. If you like the car, and feel the price it is offered at is... MarcW - 8 years ago |
Re: Called the Porsche dealer about this 05 S and... dghii - 8 years ago |
Re: Wholesale/trade in info SeaNile - 8 years ago |
JFP in PA - 8 years ago |
Re: The story of SeaNile SeaNile - 8 years ago |
Re: If that's who you're missing Roger, sober up! ![]() Roger987 - 8 years ago |
i was thinking exactly the same thing roger! ![]() frogster - 8 years ago |
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![]() Ed fromTampa ( formerly Long Island) - 8 years ago |
Regardless of where the car is you have to rely upon yourself or a qualified PPI to know the car's.. MarcW - 8 years ago |
Re: Regardless of where the car is you have to rely upon yourself or a qualified PPI to know the car's.. SeaNile - 8 years ago |
I wonder if you don't need to find a better mechanic for the PPI mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - 8 years ago |
Re: Offers made on two 987 cars, one 05 S one 06 S... SeaNile - 8 years ago |