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Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? SeaNile - Thursday, 16 December, 2010, at 11:10:16 pm |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? Guenter in Ontario - Thursday, 16 December, 2010, at 11:28:55 pm |
if it were my money… frogster - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 12:39:04 am |
I think i agree, grant - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 8:21:27 am |
Re: I think i agree, ..for once I'd disagree. Guenter in Ontario - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 8:52:55 am |
good points. I really didnt notice the heated seats ( whcih i use all the time) and frankly forgot grant - Sunday, 19 December, 2010, at 3:11:29 pm |
The price for the 2002 S is too high db997S - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 8:43:30 am |
Where are you located?... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 8:46:17 am |
Re: Where are you located?... SeaNile - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 11:14:42 am |
Really depends on your preferences - money vs. a newer car Red_Lightnin! - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 9:19:46 am |
Re: Really depends on your preferences - money vs. a newer car SeaNile - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 9:37:31 am |
Re: Really depends on your preferences - money vs. a newer car Red_Lightnin! - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 9:42:51 am |
I'd go back and read mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 9:41:12 am |
you have been looking for a car for months....go to a dealer and sign your name on a new one use the extanker - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 11:17:48 am |
Re: you have been looking for a car for months....go to a dealer and sign your name on a new one use the SeaNile - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 11:23:37 am |
Don't get the SLK Red_Lightnin! - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 11:50:29 am |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? garyinseattle - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 11:27:51 am |
Ironically Gary, I feel exactly the opposite Red_Lightnin! - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 11:56:12 am |
Re: Ironically Gary, I feel exactly the opposite..Side Vents garyinseattle - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 6:07:58 pm |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? ff42racer - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 11:33:09 am |
For what it's worth, I've had an '02 S since new..... JiminAZ - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 12:28:49 pm |
Re: Oh no, now add an 03 S to the mix! SeaNile - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 12:44:48 pm |
Way overpriced *NM* Red_Lightnin! - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 12:50:51 pm |
Re: Way overpriced Paul S. - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 1:38:27 pm |
Re: Way overpriced MikenOH - Saturday, 18 December, 2010, at 1:47:00 pm |
Re: Oh no, now add an 03 S to the mix! mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 2:47:14 pm |
Received the Feb 11 issue of Excellence yesterday... NorminHouston - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 7:26:20 pm |
Re: Received the Feb 11 issue of Excellence yesterday... SeaNile - Friday, 17 December, 2010, at 10:40:25 pm |
Re: Received the Feb 11 issue of Excellence yesterday... NorminHouston - Saturday, 18 December, 2010, at 7:15:50 pm |
Re: Received the Feb 11 issue of Excellence yesterday... SeaNile - Saturday, 18 December, 2010, at 8:15:31 pm |
Re: What kind of exhaust is on this 02 S?? SeaNile - Monday, 20 December, 2010, at 3:38:33 pm |
That is an OEM Porsche Sports Exhaust (PSE); it was an option on that car.................. JFP in PA - Monday, 20 December, 2010, at 4:07:41 pm |
Re: That is an OEM Porsche Sports Exhaust (PSE); it was an option on that car.................. SeaNile - Monday, 20 December, 2010, at 4:17:04 pm |
I hate to tell you this.................. JFP in PA - Monday, 20 December, 2010, at 5:53:14 pm |
Run away, run away! Red_Lightnin! - Monday, 20 December, 2010, at 6:16:29 pm |
Re: Run away, run away! SeaNile - Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, at 8:19:42 pm |
Everything a car salesman tells you is intended to get you to buy the car right now ... MarcW - Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, at 9:28:35 pm |
Re: Everything a car salesman tells you is intended to get you to buy the car right now ... whall - Thursday, 23 December, 2010, at 9:24:42 am |
Re: Gotta love car salesmen SeaNile - Thursday, 23 December, 2010, at 7:12:46 pm |
You know you might end up buying this car. I think you like it and that counts for a lot... MarcW - Friday, 24 December, 2010, at 3:50:51 pm |
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SeaNile
Dealer with the 02 S called me today and let me know that they have made contact with the previous owner who will be dropping off all of the service records soon. Once the dealer gets the records, whatever records there may be, they will call me and I can get a look at things. Of course the salesman has to get his dig in "good thing we reached out to the owner for the records because we now have several interested parties in the car and they also asked for the records." Personally, I don't care if it's just me or 100 other people checking out the car. That makes no difference and will not influence my decision. Sometimes they just say the dumbest things.....
Re: You know you might end up buying this car. I think you like it and that counts for a lot... SeaNile - Saturday, 25 December, 2010, at 12:48:06 am |
Wouldn't be a bad idea to test the Z if you think you're interested. The time to consider your... MarcW - Saturday, 25 December, 2010, at 12:06:52 pm |
Re: I tried to test drive one once.... SeaNile - Sunday, 26 December, 2010, at 1:07:49 pm |
I keep waiting for the former 2 time IMS loser mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Sunday, 26 December, 2010, at 1:39:16 pm |
The best part about the 2 time IMS loser's 350Z was the license plate... It read MauriceonLongIsland - Sunday, 26 December, 2010, at 1:56:03 pm |
Kind of sounded like another "midlife crisis" when he posted about it............ *NM* JFP in PA - Sunday, 26 December, 2010, at 2:01:47 pm |
Re: The best part about the 2 time IMS loser's 350Z was the license plate... It read SeaNile - Sunday, 26 December, 2010, at 2:39:36 pm |
The Bullit scratched an itch. Plain and simple. I don't think there was a crisis involved. *NM* Brett 1978 911SC Continental orange (San Diego) - Sunday, 26 December, 2010, at 6:00:34 pm |
Re: The Bullit scratched an itch. Plain and simple. ....TRUE!!! dennisafrompa - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 7:55:17 am |
California Black Plates! *NM* Tom F. - Sunday, 2 January, 2011, at 10:59:23 pm |
No service records.... no deal..... *NM* newt - Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, at 8:25:16 pm |
Re: No service records.... no deal..... SeaNile - Tuesday, 21 December, 2010, at 9:12:23 pm |
No service records ....maybe a deal mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 9:44:13 am |
Re: No service records ....maybe a deal SeaNile - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 10:17:40 am |
Re: No service records ....maybe a deal mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 11:17:05 am |
Are you only looking at dealer cars? Or private party too? *NM* Red_Lightnin! - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 12:22:22 pm |
First price is not fact only an opinion. So do *not* take the price you're quoted too seriously... MarcW - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 1:32:41 pm |
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SeaNile
I just have a feeling no service records will be found, which i am OK with if the price is right. The issue becomes the $18,000 which they say is their bottom line price. I might be OK with 18K if the car is perfect with a detailed history. $18K for a gamble of a 2002 car with no records is insane to me.
I'm in wintery Philadelphia and am in no rush as the car wouldn't really be driven till the harsh winter weather passes. Sure I would like a nice example of a 986 S for mid teens but maybe waiting this out and shopping around will discover other options. The 05 987 S with 20K miles, one owner with records for $28,450 seems reasonable but I'm not ready to pull the trigger on that car yet. Although it will probably be gone when I am ready to buy I can only hope the new year and a few more months will have the prices come down even more. Sure the weather will be nicer but the cars will be a year older, etc.
John
Private party or dealer SeaNile - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 5:43:05 pm |
If the dealer didn't mention any service specific items then my guess is the car didn't get... MarcW - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 6:41:01 pm |
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SeaNile
I called the Porsche dealer who has serviced the car, last service was at 30K miles but did not specifically say it received the 30K service. Only mention of being brought in to check CV boot in 07. No other detailed service is mentioned.
The private party 02/03S cars are actually more expensive than what the dealers are asking. The two cars I am talking about have a very detailed service history with the owner having the records. The 02 S with 41K miles is $20,500 and the 03 S is $21,900.
Maybe I just hold off a few months, get a 987 CPO S and spend a bit more. I think an 02/03 S for 16500-17000 is a decent deal but if more than that I feel more comfortable spending 30K for a 987 CPO.
I'm suggesting private party mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 6:18:06 pm |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? boxsterd - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 11:21:55 pm |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? SeaNile - Wednesday, 22 December, 2010, at 11:34:46 pm |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? boxsterd - Thursday, 23 December, 2010, at 12:34:48 am |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Thursday, 23 December, 2010, at 9:15:06 am |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? SeaNile - Thursday, 23 December, 2010, at 9:35:51 am |
Re: Might be decision time. Found two nice cars, one 986, one 987??? mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Thursday, 23 December, 2010, at 1:33:31 pm |
Re: Good news, bad news on the 986.... SeaNile - Monday, 27 December, 2010, at 1:50:12 pm |
Re: Good news, bad news on the 986.... Burg Boxster - Monday, 27 December, 2010, at 2:22:12 pm |
PS - February 2011 Excellence Mag (on sale12/28 if you don't subscribe) gave nod to '00-'02 986S... Burg Boxster - Monday, 27 December, 2010, at 2:27:45 pm |
Re: PS - February 2011 Excellence Mag (on sale12/28 if you don't subscribe) gave nod to '00-'02 986S... SeaNile - Tuesday, 28 December, 2010, at 2:24:52 pm |
Repairs depend upon the quality of the shop and how much the dealer wants to pay... MarcW - Monday, 27 December, 2010, at 2:43:55 pm |
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SeaNile
Received a call from the dealer with the 02 S this am, the good news is they now have the complete service records of the car and it seems to be very well cared for. I still need to actually see the records and go over them,.. Now the bad news....while clearing out the lot the snowplow hit the car and the hood is pretty banged up. Sounds like the truck backed up and hit the car with the salt spreader hanging off the back of the truck. And here I thought I was about to get a break with a well cared for 986. Wonder who will do the repair, will the paint match, will this show up on CarFax and ultimately will this affect the sale price and then the resale price as well??
Re: Repairs depend upon the quality of the shop and how much the dealer wants to pay... SeaNile - Monday, 27 December, 2010, at 3:22:37 pm |
Impossible to know what's going through the dealer's mind.... MarcW - Monday, 27 December, 2010, at 4:05:43 pm |
"The dealer might be tempted to skimp to avoid eating into its profits". Marc, an eternal optimist. *NM* JFP in PA - Monday, 27 December, 2010, at 3:24:16 pm |
Re: "The dealer might be tempted to skimp to avoid eating into its profits". Marc, an eternal optimist. SeaNile - Monday, 27 December, 2010, at 3:32:51 pm |
Doubtful... Burg Boxster - Monday, 27 December, 2010, at 4:02:53 pm |
Such skepticism from the man who always uses dealer service... mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Tuesday, 28 December, 2010, at 3:44:41 pm |
Re: Deposit is on the car....and not from me! SeaNile - Tuesday, 28 December, 2010, at 4:07:43 pm |
My skepticism is valid... MarcW - Tuesday, 28 December, 2010, at 7:32:35 pm |
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mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC
Dealer may collect from the plowing contractor. So dealer may not be taking the total hit.
And maybe you could insist as part of the deal on a new hood and a complete front end respray in a way that doesn't show on the CarFax.
By the way, if I had a complete picture record before repairs and write-up of the damage and parts used to fix, I wouldn't be that put off buying a multi-owner car at the right price if the owner had it fixed right and it looked brand new. These aren't collector few-made cars.
Dealer's financial reporting for the year may end Friday so you may never have leverage like you have now.
Re: So here is the 987. Thoughts? SeaNile - Wednesday, 29 December, 2010, at 1:29:36 pm |
One thought................... JFP in PA - Wednesday, 29 December, 2010, at 2:48:31 pm |
Pics not as good as I would like. One thing I noticed is the exhaust outlets... One appears... MarcW - Wednesday, 29 December, 2010, at 4:30:11 pm |
Re: Called the Porsche dealer about this 05 S and... SeaNile - Thursday, 30 December, 2010, at 5:34:05 pm |
You are on the weak side if you start negotiating down from the dealer's asking price... MarcW - Thursday, 30 December, 2010, at 6:09:03 pm |
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SeaNile
Seems that the car was well cared for and had all service at the local (where initially bought) Porsche dealer. All things done according to schedule, oil changes, services, brake flush, etc.
So if I go back to the beginning from when I have been watching, the car was listed for $28,950 and they could come down to $28450 but that was absolutely the lowest price. Looked online today and it is listed for $27,900. Why is dealing with car dealerships and car salesmen so painful?? Ironically this is the lowest priced 05 S with the lowest mileage on the web. Next closest cars either have 50K miles or are $34K.
Your story reminds me of my first Porsche purchase mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Thursday, 30 December, 2010, at 7:59:28 pm |
Re: Called the Porsche dealer about this 05 S and... MauriceonLongIsland - Thursday, 30 December, 2010, at 6:26:18 pm |
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SeaNile
Seems that the car was well cared for and had all service at the local (where initially bought) Porsche dealer. All things done according to schedule, oil changes, services, brake flush, etc.
So if I go back to the beginning from when I have been watching, the car was listed for $28,950 and they could come down to $28450 but that was absolutely the lowest price. Looked online today and it is listed for $27,900. Why is dealing with car dealerships and car salesmen so painful?? Ironically this is the lowest priced 05 S with the lowest mileage on the web. Next closest cars either have 50K miles or are $34K.
Re: Negotiating from a distance... SeaNile - Thursday, 30 December, 2010, at 9:41:13 pm |
The deal is entirely up to you. If you like the car, and feel the price it is offered at is... MarcW - Saturday, 1 January, 2011, at 3:58:54 pm |
Re: Called the Porsche dealer about this 05 S and... dghii - Thursday, 30 December, 2010, at 11:47:42 pm |
Re: Called the Porsche dealer about this 05 S and... mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 8:54:21 am |
Re: Wholesale/trade in info SeaNile - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 11:10:39 am |
This thread/subject has to be approaching the infamous "crow’s foot extension" in length....... *NM* JFP in PA - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 12:30:45 pm |
LOL - but how's it compare in torque value . *NM* Burg Boxster - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 12:42:48 pm |
Its got my shorts in a twist............... *NM* JFP in PA - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 1:34:33 pm |
Better than your bra being in a knot ........ *NM* Burg Boxster - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 2:47:48 pm |
I was almost certain Abe authored this thread until ... Roger987 - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 4:41:50 pm |
I am beginning to think the thread's author had a very descriptive name........... *NM* JFP in PA - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 5:10:19 pm |
Re: I am beginning to think the thread's author had a very descriptive name........... LOL! Regards *NM* MauriceonLongIsland - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 5:53:33 pm |
Re: The story of SeaNile SeaNile - Saturday, 1 January, 2011, at 1:36:12 pm |
If that's who you're missing Roger, sober up! *NM* Gary in SoFL - Saturday, 1 January, 2011, at 12:32:19 pm |
Re: If that's who you're missing Roger, sober up! Roger987 - Saturday, 1 January, 2011, at 12:51:23 pm |
i was thinking exactly the same thing roger! *NM* frogster - Saturday, 1 January, 2011, at 3:34:17 pm |
And you believed them? Burg Boxster - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 12:41:03 pm |
Great idea Mike! *NM* Ed fromTampa ( formerly Long Island) - Saturday, 1 January, 2011, at 8:35:04 am |
Re: Sorry for the long thread...update..they are now at $26,900 SeaNile - Friday, 31 December, 2010, at 4:12:09 pm |
What does your market research tell you this car ought to sell for? *NM* MarcW - Saturday, 1 January, 2011, at 4:00:07 pm |
Re: What does your market research tell you this car ought to sell for? SeaNile - Sunday, 2 January, 2011, at 9:15:39 am |
Regardless of where the car is you have to rely upon yourself or a qualified PPI to know the car's.. MarcW - Sunday, 2 January, 2011, at 4:12:13 pm |
Re: Regardless of where the car is you have to rely upon yourself or a qualified PPI to know the car's.. SeaNile - Sunday, 2 January, 2011, at 5:19:36 pm |
I wonder if you don't need to find a better mechanic for the PPI mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Sunday, 2 January, 2011, at 7:46:21 pm |
Re: Offers made on two 987 cars, one 05 S one 06 S... SeaNile - Monday, 3 January, 2011, at 3:17:32 pm |
Good luck! What ever happens, start a new thread! *NM* Tom F. - Tuesday, 4 January, 2011, at 7:33:35 pm |