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Topic Bits and pieces in your oil filter is a sure sign of complete engine failure, |
A few maintenance related questions Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 1:43:02 pm |
a comment.... por911(bc) - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 4:02:36 pm |
It was about 75k miles that my H2O pump decitded... BoxsterBob - San Carlos - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 5:51:59 pm |
Re: It was about 75k miles that my H2O pump decitded... Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 9:26:17 pm |
Don't forget to keep the old one and toss it in the trunk BoxsterBob - San Carlos - Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, at 10:50:47 am |
Re: Don't forget to keep the old one and toss it in the trunk Guenter in Ontario - Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, at 1:59:02 pm |
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BoxsterBob - San Carlos
It may not be perfect, but could prevent being stranded on a road trip.
Re: a comment.... Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 9:22:22 pm |
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por911(bc)
I don't think the tiny bits(two) are anything to be concerned about, but it is good to check the filter after each change anyway. At 54k, I'd replace the following:
-water pump (factory)
-t-stat(factory)
-coolant (factory)
You might consider at that mileage, checking the condition of the fuel injector o-rings(these take a lot of abuse) and the drive line mounts. When the brakes are done, it is probably worth flushing the brake and clutch fluid out(if manual). It not a bad time to change out the gearbox oil.
regards
Re: a comment.... por911(bc) - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 11:26:43 pm |
i wouldn't.... grant - Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, at 11:55:27 am |
The 2 tiny bits of metal is nothing I'd be worried about. These engines have a huge.. MarcW - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 5:58:25 pm |
Re: The 2 tiny bits of metal is nothing I'd be worried about. These engines have a huge.. Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 9:37:11 pm |
The techs told me that some seepage from the water pump was ok. They said that no wetness... MarcW - Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, at 2:04:43 pm |
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Guenter in Ontario
Thanks Marc. I see your point about not waiting. Just at this point there hasn't even been a drip on the floor and everything looked dry. The little stalactite was flaky and dry. That looked like the only clue that had the mechanic check it further.
My thinking was that the materials - specially the belt would be 4 months newer (maybe) and I was planning on having it looked after as soon as I take the car out. I like to have those things looked after so I can enjoy the rest of the season.
I didn't feel the dark material. My mechanic did and he was the one who said it looked like part of the timing belt guides.
Question re Failure ... paulwdenton - Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, at 9:29:02 am |
It depends upon how the pump 'fails'. A pump that just stops turning is rare. When this does... MarcW - Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, at 2:47:55 pm |
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paulwdenton
When the water pump fails, I thought that just meant that the water stopped circulating and it rapidly overheated. I figured that if my Porsche waterpump failed, I'd immediately shut down the engine to prevent overheating and just have it flatbedded back to the mechanic for a new pump. That was my Dad's experience with his old Buick and it was not really that big a deal. I would never run the car with a broken waterpump, I'm not so stupid to let it get overheated. However, it sounds from your post that WP failure alone in my Cayman would result in catastrophic damage to the engine aside from overheating ("When I determined my 02 Boxster's water pump was noisy I elected to not even drive the car the 20 miles or so to the nearest Porsche dealer but instead have it flat bedded there, simply to avoid the water pump suffering some mechanical failure that could result in more serious damage to the engine." ). I'm not understanding how the WP failure could cause serious damage to the engine aside from running it while overheated. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question but please bear with me. Can you elaborate on this? What happens? Can the WP disintegrate and spray parts into the engine?
Re: It depends upon how the pump 'fails'. A pump that just stops turning is rare. When this does... paulwdenton - Wednesday, 23 November, 2011, at 9:03:10 am |
It is up to you but you can wait for the water pump to signal it needs attention. They very seldom.. MarcW - Wednesday, 23 November, 2011, at 6:17:03 pm |
My rule of thumb is that it will fail at absolutely the worst time Lawdevil & CURVN8R - Thursday, 24 November, 2011, at 2:56:56 pm |
Re: A few maintenance related questions MikenOH - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 6:06:05 pm |
Re: A few maintenance related questions Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 9:43:04 pm |
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MikenOH
Guenther:
I've got an 06 with 39K on it and am getting close to the same maintenance items you are. During the spring visit to my Indy, I'll do the T-stat, thinking about the water pump and probably a UDP. Had the serpentine belt done this past spring along with spark plugs and coils. Also, thinking about dropping the bumper and do a thorough cleaning of the radiators because we do track events.
Front pads are an annual thing and did the front rotors this past summer-- a very easy DIY.
I've not seen anything shinny in the oil filters yet and do the oil analysis once a year--nothing extraordinary to this point. I would recommend a oil analysis next time and have your Indy do the camshaft deviation test with the durametric to see if anything is awry with the IMS. Both are only a good indicator of what is going on at the time of the sample or test.
Re: A few maintenance related questions Roger987 - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 8:11:03 pm |
Re: A few maintenance related questions Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 9:53:00 pm |
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Roger987
Sounds as though you have a great mechanic. He's on top of it. And I like that the waterpump has given you some advance warning.
I had assumed that the water pump is visible only when the engine compartment cover behind the seats is removed. But I'm guessing I'm wrong, and that you and your tech were able to check it out from beneath the car?
Re: A few maintenance related questions Motobob - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 8:16:57 pm |
Re: A few maintenance related questions Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 9:55:40 pm |
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Motobob
My WP was seeping (discovered Dec 10 during annual MX), I only got to drive it a bit in 2011 (was overseas) but I did have all three replaced last week (WP, thermostat, and belt) and feel good about it; sitting in your garage over the winter should not be an issue. Bob
Re: A few maintenance related questions Alcantera - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 9:38:21 pm |
Re: A few maintenance related questions Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 9:58:51 pm |
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Alcantera
Guenter ,I know you are about to put the curvenator away maybe get mike to do the pump and.the coolant tank , both failures leave you dead on the side of the road. and doing them together means you could save the coolant. I think most guys get about he 50000 miles on a coolant tank. Mike knows how to properly refill the coolant . oil sounds OK ,just keep an eye on it. Hes a great Indy, we are lucky to have him.
Bits and pieces in your oil filter is a sure sign of complete engine failure, Naples986 - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 10:06:18 pm |
Re: Bits and pieces in your oil filter is a sure sign of complete engine failure, Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 11:30:08 pm |
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Naples996
I'll buy the Curven8r from you at half off I have seen the pics on line of cars with problems, the oil filer is covered with bits leaving no doubt of a problem.
I think MarcW has a good point about not putting off the repairs. The thermostat is in the same area as the WP so it's a good time to put a new one in.
BTW, welcome to the busted WP club.
Good luck what ever you decide to do, I'm with you in spirit *NM* Naples986 - Monday, 21 November, 2011, at 11:45:37 pm |
In healthcare as well as car care, I generally find ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, at 10:15:01 am |
Re: In healthcare as well as car care, I generally find ... Wayne K - Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, at 1:26:06 pm |
Re: In healthcare as well as car care, I generally find ... Guenter in Ontario - Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, at 1:57:39 pm |
water pump or not Lt.Dan - Wednesday, 11 July, 2012, at 9:58:47 pm |