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Topic Weeeellllll, i used to thinlk that about tiptronic too... and i discovered |
I had to cancel my 2014 Boxster order and order again, new delivery date Aug 28, 2013 Joanne in OC - Saturday, 8 June, 2013, at 9:04:05 pm |
The PDK definitely grows on you. After the slight learning curve, I don't think you'll look back... *NM* Leor ('09S, North of Boston) - Saturday, 8 June, 2013, at 10:55:49 pm |
Re: I had to cancel my 2014 Boxster order and order again, new delivery date Aug 28, 2013 Guenter in Ontario - Sunday, 9 June, 2013, at 12:36:18 am |
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Joanne in OC
I'm not sure if this is good or bad. Just prior to BRBS the dealer informed me of a $400 fee that I was not told about previously for my new Boxster. I wasn't pleased, they did say they would split it with me. The extra cost to me would be $200. I spoke with the sales person when I returned, got the final decision today that they would not do any more. They informed me that if I went to another dealer I'd have to wait until Oct to get my car. Told them I would think about a few days and let them know ...... They don't know me too well.
I went to McKenna today, they had an open spot with delivery for Aug 28 (12 days later than my original order). So, I then started to discuss my options and the cost. My prior order had 6% off. I told them the price that was quoted. After being at BRBS and speaking with others, I decided to add a few options. I came up with the price, we negotiated. I ended up getting 7.5% off my car with the extra options. For an extra $3,000 I added the ventilated seats and changed to the Cayman wheels. Then added the PDK. I think I did ok ...... I won't have to fly to Vegas and pay the cost of the trip, so I save money there as well. I'll just fly my granddaughter to California to come pick it up with me (main reason for the Vegas delivery).
Now I'm kinda glad that Guenter is over 3,000 miles away from me ..... We had discussions about how much we liked the manual transmission. He may wring my neck if we were closer .... After listening to conversations at BRBS and speaking with others here in SoCal. I tried it, much better and responsive than the tiptronic. I liked it, but I'm not "in love" with it, maybe in time. I decided that I'm probably going to be keeping this car a long time, like my last one, and I may not want the manual when I'm older.
To sum it up..... I got more options for $3K but have a 12 day later delivery date.
Joanne
Gman, I can help Roger987 - Sunday, 9 June, 2013, at 8:14:05 pm |
Re: Gman, I can help Guenter in Ontario - Sunday, 9 June, 2013, at 8:46:45 pm |
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Roger987
Arriving at the east coast probably means it will be at the Halifax Autoport. As you know, I'm in Halifax often (in fact, I'm in Hfx as I type this).
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If you like, and if you can arrange it with Porsche, I'll be pleased to take your new car for a quick 'quality assurance' spin, after it arrives in Hfx., before it's loaded on the train for Ontario.
That way, if there are any issues, they can be rectified before it reaches you. I know you want to avoid even the most remote possibility of anything going awry when your eyes meet across the showroom floor.
Re: Gman, I can help MikenOH - Monday, 10 June, 2013, at 4:47:33 pm |
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Roger987
Arriving at the east coast probably means it will be at the Halifax Autoport. As you know, I'm in Halifax often (in fact, I'm in Hfx as I type this).
[smartcityblog.greaterhalifax.com]
If you like, and if you can arrange it with Porsche, I'll be pleased to take your new car for a quick 'quality assurance' spin, after it arrives in Hfx., before it's loaded on the train for Ontario.
That way, if there are any issues, they can be rectified before it reaches you. I know you want to avoid even the most remote possibility of anything going awry when your eyes meet across the showroom floor.
Re: Gman, I can help Guenter in Ontario - Monday, 10 June, 2013, at 5:45:47 pm |
That's great!..... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Sunday, 9 June, 2013, at 12:51:32 am |
Re: That's great!..... Harvey in FL - Sunday, 9 June, 2013, at 8:57:46 pm |
Re: That's great!..... Kite Pilot - Monday, 10 June, 2013, at 12:38:10 am |
Re: That's great!..... Gary in SoFL - Monday, 10 June, 2013, at 8:58:30 am |
I don't want a pass ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Tuesday, 11 June, 2013, at 11:58:29 pm |
Hre's a conindrum,but... grant - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 8:34:07 am |
Re: Hre's a conindrum,but... Guenter in Ontario - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 9:09:46 am |
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grant
.. i think i'd rather shift and be slower. Its a sport. I'm sure hiring Rafa Nadal to play tennis for me would impriove my wining %, btu i would not gain the same enjoyment or pride out of it.
OTOH, i completely agree that PDK is better than me, and that it also frees me to concentrate on better braking, turn-in, subtle line differences that get obliterated when wrestling with abotched heal-and-toe, etc.
How about "both please"?
Grant
Re: Hre's a conindrum,but... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 11:09:27 am |
It's nice to have choices, until the true manual is no more. Being faster 1% of the time vs fun 99% *NM* Gary in SoFL - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 11:41:52 am |
No, i think yur construction is not parallel. grant - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 4:54:15 pm |
So you don't think that ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 5:30:43 pm |
For Ayrton Senna, sure; for the rest of us non professional race care drivers, NBD 99.5% of the time *NM* Gary in SoFL - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 6:56:12 pm |
Of course the fastest guys on track are good, even using PDK, but that one task *was* done for them. grant - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 10:10:46 pm |
Re: So you don't think that ... gedwin - Thursday, 13 June, 2013, at 10:14:00 am |
Re: So you don't think that ... Guenter in Ontario - Thursday, 13 June, 2013, at 10:41:30 am |
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gedwin
Also, using PDK in manual mode, you still have to choose the gear, and initiate the shift at the right time. Only thing removed is the manual activation of the clutch and it's timing. So some of the interaction is removed, but you still must apply some skill.
Re: So you don't think that ... gedwin - Thursday, 13 June, 2013, at 11:27:02 am |
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Guenter in Ontario
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gedwin
Also, using PDK in manual mode, you still have to choose the gear, and initiate the shift at the right time. Only thing removed is the manual activation of the clutch and it's timing. So some of the interaction is removed, but you still must apply some skill.
If you have PDK, why would you want to use it in manual mode? You've paid $4000 for this option, why not use it for its optimum potential. As Pedro had said in an earlier post, PDK is so good that it learns your driving style and it will shift much better than you can.
Weeeellllll, i used to thinlk that about tiptronic too... and i discovered grant - Thursday, 13 June, 2013, at 11:30:48 am |
Re: So you don't think that ... Guenter in Ontario - Thursday, 13 June, 2013, at 10:33:56 am |
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Pedro (Weston, FL)
... being the fastest in your class at the track is not an extension of the driver if he/she decides to use PDK?
So, what about all the Pro drivers which that's all they have?
There's no skill in what they're doing?
You think PDK drives for you?
A good driver with a manual is still going to be faster than a mediocre one with a PDK in the same car.
But a good fast driver will be faster with a PDK than with a manual.
Again it all comes to the nitty gritty of what makes a racer and what does a racer enjoy the most: Not ever wanting to finish in second place.
Happy Porscheing,
Pedro
Re: So you don't think that ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Thursday, 13 June, 2013, at 12:05:19 pm |
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Guenter in Ontario
However, I do feel it takes away one skill set, the driver is no longer required to use.
Can I try those "GPS guided hydraulic skis"? That might be kinda fun and faster Joanne in OC - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 7:34:15 pm |
I would rather have straight cut gears 986rgt - Wednesday, 12 June, 2013, at 7:26:48 pm |
Re: I would rather have straight cut gears Kite Pilot - Thursday, 13 June, 2013, at 12:35:31 am |
Thanks for sharing your experience SteveJ (2010 987 base, manual trans) - Sunday, 9 June, 2013, at 11:53:53 am |
Joanne, that worked out wonderfully Roger987 - Sunday, 9 June, 2013, at 8:41:41 pm |
Re: Joanne, that worked out wonderfully db997S - Monday, 10 June, 2013, at 3:50:12 pm |
Re: I had to cancel my 2014 Boxster order and order again, new delivery date Aug 28, 2013 Bob C. - Tuesday, 11 June, 2013, at 8:59:37 pm |