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Topic 271K+ miles. Debating taking it on a 2 week/5K mile road trip here in a month or so. *NM* |
New IMS approach mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Tuesday, 20 August, 2013, at 6:05:05 pm |
Re: New IMS approach Roger987 - Tuesday, 20 August, 2013, at 6:29:51 pm |
"500% more loading capacity than ball bearings" Boxsterra - Wednesday, 21 August, 2013, at 10:59:33 am |
Re: "500% more loading capacity than ball bearings" Roger987 - Wednesday, 21 August, 2013, at 11:49:27 am |
+1 for whatever oils any type of bearing *NM* Laz - Wednesday, 21 August, 2013, at 3:43:21 pm |
Yepper, Whcih is why... grant - Wednesday, 21 August, 2013, at 3:00:44 pm |
Any ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Wednesday, 21 August, 2013, at 5:38:59 pm |
"Proper" is the operative word. *NM* Laz - Wednesday, 21 August, 2013, at 7:17:47 pm |
How did you determine that mist./splash is not enough? mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Thursday, 22 August, 2013, at 3:54:22 pm |
Maybe it is enough, but isn't the greater margin of "safety" for such a problem the better solution? *NM* Laz - Thursday, 22 August, 2013, at 4:56:00 pm |
I'm curious about the same. I haev no doubt.. grant - Friday, 23 August, 2013, at 7:39:56 am |
I wish the DOF had been available... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Friday, 23 August, 2013, at 11:02:21 am |
Interesting dicussion, but I keep coming back to one question-- MikenOH - Friday, 23 August, 2013, at 11:21:04 am |
Cars that... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Friday, 23 August, 2013, at 11:56:53 am |
Come to think of it, that's a big reason to do a proper warmup. Laz - Friday, 23 August, 2013, at 12:33:17 pm |
271K+ miles. Debating taking it on a 2 week/5K mile road trip here in a month or so. *NM* MarcW - Friday, 23 August, 2013, at 1:10:22 pm |
Re: I wish the DOF had been available... Mike - Friday, 23 August, 2013, at 12:11:01 pm |
Re: New IMS approach thom4782 - Friday, 23 August, 2013, at 7:48:06 pm |
"More oil volume might be better, but then again it may not." grant - Saturday, 24 August, 2013, at 8:17:44 am |
Don't get all twisted up in your "no data" shorts Bruce In Philly (2000 S Boxster, now '09 C2S) - Saturday, 24 August, 2013, at 6:01:00 pm |
Is There a Better Solution for Later-Model Boxsters & Caymans ... ? paulwdenton - Saturday, 24 August, 2013, at 11:30:04 pm |
Splash lubrication explained ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Sunday, 25 August, 2013, at 9:54:16 am |
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paulwdenton
It seems to me to be good common sense that pumping oil onto the bearing has got to be better than just hoping it gets lubricated with splash (although if someone could say definitively that the IMS sits IN the crankcase oil, I might have to take that back). Dunno why that information is so darned hard to come by.
Re: Splash lubrication explained ... mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Monday, 26 August, 2013, at 1:31:58 pm |
Re: Splash lubrication explained ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Monday, 26 August, 2013, at 6:37:13 pm |
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mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC
I've heard that, once the engine is turning, the seal-removed bearing isn't so much lubricated by splash or immersion as by a mist in the crankcase. I presume it is the same pressurized mist of air mixed with oil the AOS filters. And pressurized would mean forced through the bearing.
Any comment?
Re: Don't get all twisted up in your "no data" shorts thom4782 - Saturday, 24 August, 2013, at 11:32:35 pm |
Your information is not right ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Sunday, 25 August, 2013, at 9:33:52 am |
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That said, I see two reasonable apple to apple price level pathways for dealing with the IMS problem in 97-2005 Boxsters. Price level one: for roughly $1500 to $1700 in parts, install aeither (a) DOF along with a new unsealed ceramic bearing or (b) install a direct oil fed plain bearing. Price level two: for roughly $700 to $800 in parts, install (a) a new unsealed splash lubricated ceramic bearing or (b) install DOF after removing the seal from the car's existing bearing.
Re: Your information is not right ... thom4782 - Sunday, 25 August, 2013, at 10:43:37 am |
Where did you get the IMS "solution" price number mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - Monday, 26 August, 2013, at 2:14:30 pm |
Re: Where did you get the IMS "solution" price number thom4782 - Monday, 26 August, 2013, at 5:23:07 pm |
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mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC
Since those prices are, I presume, without labor pricing and since The Solution is only I think currently available from one source and their price includes labor and labor hours and rates may be somewhat different for the various approaches.../quote]
It just so happened that last week I asked my local independent what the price was for the IMS Solution kit. He looked it up online with the distributor and told me $1700. Today, I looked on the Pelican Parts site and saw it offers the IMS Solution kit for $1906. The numbers I included in my two recent notes only included the prices of the DOF, LN Retrofit and IMS Solution kits.
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Re: Where did you get the IMS "solution" price number Pedro (Odessa, FL) - Monday, 26 August, 2013, at 7:36:16 pm |
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mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC
Also the kits are not quite apples to apples, are they, as they include different parts? When DOF quotes a bearing price isn't it the bearing alone and not any other parts? Where LN includes other parts and Pelican still an other selection of parts.