718, the sound and the fury... JackintheBoxster - 7 years ago |
There's little doubt Porsche engineers got the best 'sound' possible from these engines Roger987 - 7 years ago |
And the others mikefocke, '01S Sanford, NC - 7 years ago |
Re: 718, the sound and the fury... MikenOH - 7 years ago |
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There seems to be a consensus among reviewers, thankfully including the relatively few written by reporters who can put a sentence together and are not just copying from what is already out there, that the 718 is a remarkably good car, better than the competition, other than the sound. The latest I've seen is this one, comparing it to the Jaguar F-Type (really? you guys think this is the modernized E-Type? I'd rather go for the new Fiata): [www.yahoo.com]. I particularly like this one's statement that the 718's "flat-six aria vocal cords have been snipped in favor of a flatulent turbocharged flat four."
Really, sound? That's the problem? Seems to me that German ingenuity that has built a number of topline cars, produced some of the world's great literature and (somewhat unsuccessfully) marched across Europe twice in the last hundred years can deal with this problem. Maybe they should bring in some consultants from Harley Davidson.
Re: 718, the sound and the fury... Roger987 - 7 years ago |
Re: 718, the sound and the fury... MikenOH - 7 years ago |
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Mike, that begs the question - why didn't Porsche do it?
Re: 718, the sound and the fury... Guenter in Ontario - 7 years ago |
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...... Really, sound? That's the problem?........
Re: 718, the sound and the fury... MikenOH - 7 years ago |
Re: 718, the sound and the fury... *NM* CarreraLicious - 7 years ago |
Re: 718, the sound and the fury... grc0456 - 7 years ago |
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...... Really, sound? That's the problem?........
You got it. At least in my view, it's part of the problem.
After I'd heard a number of 718 Boxsters on YouTube, I had posted here, that there just didn't seem to be any sense of urgency in the sound of the new 718 Boxster. It just didn't sound exciting. At least for me, a sports cars should feel exciting every time you drive it. If you just want a car that gets you from here to there, there are lots of less expensive cars that can do that for you. When I had a salesman fire up a 718, it reminded my of my Karmann Ghia, with its flat 4 engine. It had an extractor exhaust. Yes. it sounded great in its day, but not anything like the flat sixes in the 911 at that time. If Porsche put this turbo flat 4 into a sub Boxster sports car and sold it for $35K - $40K, that would be great. But, we're talking about a car that starts in the $65K range without any options here in Canada. I guess that Porsche spoiled us with that fabulous flat six in the Boxsters until now.
The other part of the problem, to me, is the added complexity of the turbocharger and the potential problems it can bring.
Unfortunately, Porsche felt it had to do this to improve fuel efficiency in the European test cycle. According to that cycle, they claimed an improvement of 14%. But now, the Europeans are finding that their test cycle doesn't have much resemblance to real world driving and they're now going to changing their testing methods. In the Canadian test cycle, the 718 actually gets worse mileage than the 981 does.
So it's not that the 718 is a bad car. I think it's still the best car in its class. I'm sure it outhandles all the competition. The 718, over all, just is not quite as good as the 981 that it replaces. It just doesn't generate the same excitement that the previous Boxsters did.
Just listen to these two videos. Which car sounds more exciting? If you think they're both equal, I'm sure you'll be completely satisfied with the new 718.
718 Boxster
[www.topgear.com]
Boxster GTS
[www.youtube.com]
I know IF I were in the market right now, I'd be searching the dealer websites for any remaining 981's.
Re: 718, the sound and the fury... GoMan - 7 years ago |
Exhaust sounds are so passé frogster - 7 years ago |
#neverelectric *NM* old timer - 7 years ago |
Re: Exhaust sounds are so passé CarreraLicious - 7 years ago |
Re: Exhaust sounds are so passé Guenter in Ontario - 7 years ago |
That sound is heavenly frogster - 7 years ago |
Re: Exhaust sounds are so passé grc0456 - 7 years ago |
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Magnus won't likely ever buy a Porsche at a dealer. He likes the older Porsches and customizes them himself.
He actually buys the cars to use as Porsche intended. No texting, nav, Burmeister, PDK, connectivity. The adrenaline rush comes from the pure experience of driving, shifting, steering and maintaining control while conducting the Symphony in Flat Six doing what it was built for. He'd never get excited about riding around in a 4 wheeled infotainment system.
Re: Exhaust sounds are so passé Guenter in Ontario - 7 years ago |
Re: Exhaust sounds are so passé CarreraLicious - 7 years ago |
Re: Exhaust sounds are so passé frogster - 7 years ago |
Electric car noise---breaking news MikenOH - 7 years ago |
Re: Electric car noise---breaking news frogster - 7 years ago |
Re: Electric car noise---breaking news CarreraLicious - 7 years ago |
Wow! Don't you just love Guenter in Ontario - 7 years ago |
That's a good one, Guenter! *NM* MikenOH - 7 years ago |
LOL! *NM* CarreraLicious - 7 years ago |