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Transmissions JackintheBoxster - 8 years ago |
Re: Transmissions CarreraLicious - 8 years ago |
People may like to shift, but ... Pedro (Odessa, FL) - 8 years ago |
Re: People may like to shift, but ... JackintheBoxster - 8 years ago |
Re: People may like to shift, but ... MarcW - 8 years ago |
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JackintheBoxster
These are all valid reasons why some people are moving away from manual transmissions -- some people find them cumbersome in the city, etc., and, now, of course, racing-oriented drivers can do better with PDK. All of which is legitimate. My point is that some people like to shift and that some people also liked using a manual choke, shifting is an integral part of driving for them and as long as there are a certain number of people like that out there, the shifter is not likely to disappear from internal-combustion engines. I concede that it will become rarer for racing drivers who find they can cut time off their laps with a PDK.
I'm just speculating here, not drawing a red line.
Ummm...... Bruce In Philly (2000 S Boxster, now '09 C2S) - 8 years ago |
Re: Transmissions db997S - 8 years ago |
You're missing the point JackintheBoxster - 8 years ago |
Re: You're missing the point grc0456 - 8 years ago |
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JackintheBoxster
All of your math above makes sense, except it ignores the key element that some people buy manuals because they enjoy shifting gears as part of driving. For those for whom that's not important, automatics in all of their guises have been more attractive since their introduction in the 50s (I'm not including those half-automatics from the '40s). For a relaxing experience, automatics provided more convenience, and easier commuting and city driving from the start. As you point out below, today's PDK flavor increase mileage and provide performance. However, they do not provide the experience of going through the gears and that feeling of control, and as long as any car company's customers include a number of people who want manuals, they'd be foolish not to offer them. I think Corvette offers manual as an option, which may make my point. Car companies might pick one transmission for economy of scale unless the decide they can't afford to lose customers or prestige by eliminating clutches -- if I were in the market for a new sports car and Porsche offered no manual transmission, I would start to look at Mazda, Corvette, BMW and other brands and so would a lot of other drivers. It all depends on whether Porsche is willing to pay whatever the cost is in lost business and image -- and image is not just on race day; a lot of sports car drivers buy their vehicles so they can tool around mountain roads at 45 when the speed limit is 35 or so they can enjoy a three-hour trip out of town on secondary roads and have some fun.
Re: You're missing the point CarreraLicious - 8 years ago |
Re: You're missing the point db997S - 8 years ago |
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db997S
Did that stop them from making and selling the new one?
Re: You're missing the point CarreraLicious - 8 years ago |
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boxtaboy
Yeah, but I'd argue that pulling the manual from the GT3 made sense as it's made for the track, and on the track, for fastest lap times, a PDK makes sense. When they pull it from the regular 911s and Boxsters/Caymans, then that would stink.
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